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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 June 2024

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HAMAS DEATH TOLL needs to be UPDATED. Hamas official told reuters in febuary 2024 1/3 of Hamas fighters were killed which equalled 6,000-6,600.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-six-week-drive-hit-hamas-rafah-scale-back-war-2024-02-19/

TIME Magazine in May 17 2024 https://time.com/6979208/israel-gaza-death-toll/ Says that 6,000-8,000 fighters KILLED.

June 2024 US and Israeli officials believe 50% = 10,000-12,500 fighters have been killed. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/diminished-hamas-switches-full-insurgent-mode-gaza-2024-06-06/

Hamas military wing qassam brigades have 20,000-25,000 fighters in its ranks. 2A00:23C8:180E:EE00:6C55:20BB:37F2:C783 (talk) 00:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bumping thread. Left guide (talk) 08:09, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tactics

Not an edit request. Non-XC accounts are only allowed to submit edit requests here. — kashmīrī ^TALK 21:43, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Recently, an interesting report was published by the oldest defense research institute in Britain examining the IDF's warfare tactics inside Gaza in the northern part of the Strip, north of the netzarim axis.

https://www.zman.co.il/506826/

https://static.rusi.org/tactical-lessons-from-idf-gaza-2023.pdf שמי (2023) (talk) 11:14, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Biased Reporting, Biased Sources, Purposeful omission of information

WP:ECR. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:46, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is written from a biased point of view. It uses sources which have been discredited, or required retractions or corrections. This is supposed to report the facts of the situation, not propagate propaganda. There is also a complete lack of information on anything explaining the instigation of this situation (October 7th massacre). Moreover, there is a distinct lack of information discussing the proven discreditation of false information disseminated by Hamas and reported in media and by the UN. Please consider relying on sources which do not confirm the authors'/editors' inherent biases. Please take the time to report the facts instead of pushing an agenda. Factsnotfiction2024 (talk) 16:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly would you suggest to change in the article? Alaexis_¿question? 21:33, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The IDF's casualty number

The casualty number (given by the "yediot ahronot" newspaper) quotted by the aricle, stems from a misled interpretation of the information given by the source, as, The given casualty figure, refers to every IDF soldier that has been treated following the war, with soldiers who suffer from psycholohical damage also being included in the account. In wikipedia, casualties belonging to this category, are rarely included in the casualty count, with generally almost no emphasis given for the mental consequences of military conflicts in typical articles about military engagements. Additionally, the article refers to the IDF's number casualty throughout the entire war, in all of the fronts combined. A figure which is most likely, signifcantly higher than the number of the IDF's casualties in gaza alone. On top of that, the article does not dispute the official number of casualties published by the IDF (if it did, the article's main emphasis would be entirely different, that it would provide a clarity regarding this essential claim, as, such a claim is significant enough, in order for it to inevtiably be highlighted and extensively elaborated in addtional articles made by the news agency, which is not the case), as the casualty figures given by the article, rely on a broader definition of the term "casualty", hence, not cotradicting the IDF's claims. Therefore, the misled, or intentional misinterpretation of the article's main conclusion, is an unobjective attempt to inflate the IDF's casualty number. This should be removed. טוראי פייל (talk) 20:22, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Note that non-extended confirmed accounts like yours can only submit straightforward edit requests but cannot argue a point of view. — kashmīrī ^TALK 21:41, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Some CHANGES needed to death/casualties / NUMBER of fighters On Hamas side.

1. ACCORDING to https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00396338.2024.2357484 - Daniel Byman At the end of April, estimates of the number of Hamas fighters killed ranged from 6,000–8,000 (Hamas figures). (Source WSJ) 8 Margherita Stancati, ‘In Gaza, Authorities Lose Count of the Dead’, Wall Street Journal, 28 April 2024, https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/in-gaza-authorities-lose-count-of-the-dead-779ff694.

News outlets have previously cited Hamas officials estimating between 6,000 and 8,000 of their fighters have been killed. https://time.com/6979208/israel-gaza-death-toll/ - TIME Magazine

This SHOULD replace unreliable unverified nor updated euro-med monitor.

2. Number of Hamas FIGHTERS isn't up to 40,000 -Hamas has seen about half its forces.....20,000-25,000 https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/diminished-hamas-switches-full-insurgent-mode-gaza-2024-06-06/.

Maybe UPWARDS of about up to 30,000. Minimum should be 20,000, Maximum should be 30,000. 2A00:23C8:180E:EE00:714E:89D3:312F:230C (talk) 15:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Optional picture

77.124.26.239 (talk) 19:58, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arabic: source

Hebrew: machine translation into Hebrew. 77.124.26.239 (talk) 20:00, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16 years old

https://www.israelhayom.co.il/news/geopolitics/palestinians/article/15936571 "Yoni Ben-Menachem, a senior researcher from the Jerusalem Center for Public and State Affairs, said in a conversation with "Israel Today" that "most of the recruits are boys aged 16 and over, whom the military wing of Hamas recruits in exchange for payment. Because they are enthusiastic young people, it gives them motivation. This is a phenomenon which occurs for a maximum of two months and is very worrisome." 2A0D:6FC0:B4D:6D00:A2:C3DE:8C3B:6F9D (talk) 21:26, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]