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Merger proposal

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I propose that Helminths be merged into Intestinal parasite. The Helminths article is exclusively about intestinal parasites, and the only other relevant article referred to on the Intestinal parasite page is Protozoa - there isn't anything specifically about parasitical protozoa. "Intestinal parasite" is a far more likely candidate for a search than "Helminth", so I propose this as the destination page. Tevildo (talk) 21:25, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support as nominator. Tevildo (talk)
  • Opose, the Helminths page is far more better and complete than Intestinal parasite. The latter should include, apart from "protozoa" also helminths and fungi and a reference to pathogenic bacteria. The incompleteness of the "Intestinal parasite" page can't be the sole reason for a merge as I see it; therefore, I can't agree with the proposed merge. -- Wlodzimierz (talk) 13:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. I would agree with your assessment of the current state of the articles. My initial proposal is to combine all our information on such parasites, the great majority of which is currently in Helminths, into one article, and name that article "Intestinal parasite". If, at some stage in the future, more information is added to the article, we may consider splitting it. However, I would argue that we don't currently have enough information to support two articles on this subject, and "Intestinal parasite" is a better title than "Helminths" for the combined article. Tevildo (talk) 14:52, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. I have just made some modifications to the article on "helminths" - see also the talk page there (importance to stress the link with lack of sanitatin and the prevention options). The Helminth article is currently certainly better than the "intestinal parasite" article. How about the "intestinal parasite" article is written more like an overview article and then for any details on helminths we refer the reader to the article on healminths? I fear that otherwise the article on intestinal parasites will get too long? EvM-Susana (talk) 12:23, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Intestinal parasite is a broader category than Helminths. Not sure what to do exactly. Maybe simply have sections here that briefly cover the broad categories and than links to other pages. Currently the article is written as a disease based article not an organism based article. We either need to rename it to "intestinal parasite infection" or change to content to actually be about the organisms. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:56, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This article covers the helminths (which are also covered in detailed elsewhere) and the protozoa (are they also covered in detail elsewhere)? Providing such a short overview of both of them together is perhaps not bad but the reader needs to be referred to the other relevant pages in several places, in particular to the page on helminthiasis. I am wondering also if the "See also" list should either be expanded or arranged differently. We have quite a few pages on worms now and they often repeat the same things about prevention and treatment (as prevention - sanitation for example - is pretty much the same for all types of worms). In any case, what we need is a really good overview page and then from the individual pages for the different worms we need to link back to the really good overview page. Otherwise people and authors will get lost... EvM-Susana (talk) 12:52, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think now it's OK to leave this article as very short and sweet and then the reader can find more information on the "helminthiasis" page. I have removed the See also list because it only pointed to 3 particular helminths.EvM-Susana (talk) 19:09, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. I oppose this merge as intestinal parasite is a broader category than helminth which are intestinal worms. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 23:49, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How detailed should the section on treatment be?

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We need to improve the section on treatment. It should be quite general and rather refer people to the other relevant pages. Someone added information here recently but I am not sure if it really fits (unless what see it as an example), however, also no references were given. Can someone please check this out, e.g. Doc_James perhaps? EvM-Susana (talk) 09:42, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Would keep it general. People can than go to the subpages for specific recommendations. What is the treatment when one does not have an exact cause? Is there one? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:47, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is this article about the organisms or about the disease?

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You have put "types" under "diagnosis", User:Ozzie10aaaa. I thought this article is about the organisms, not about the disease. It's all a bit confusing. We tried to separate organism from disease very clearly here: helminth = organism, helminthiasis = disease. I wonder if the same could be achieved for intestinal parasite? Perhaps what we need is more of an overview or list type article that then branches off to the particular organisms and diseases? EMsmile (talk) 15:40, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

yes you could be right, what do you think about a 'move' to Intestinal parasite infection?...(Pubmed)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:21, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
you mean like a simple name change to "intestinal parasite infection"? Could work. But it needs to be really clear that it would not go into detail regarding helminthiasis as that has its own article. There was earlier a discussion on this talk page to merge it with helminthiasis but User:Doc James pointed out that helminthiasis is just one example of intestinal parasite infections (maybe the most dominant one?). So I agree with your proposed name change. And I don't think we need a separate article on "intestinal parasite" as that could just redirect to "inestinal parasite infection" as they would go hand in hand. EMsmile (talk) 23:00, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
done[1](will be going thru the text)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:10, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Question: We have this sentence "If the intestinal parasite infection is caused by helminths then the infection is called helminthiasis." I would like to add the equivalent sentence which would say: "If the intestinal parasite infection is caused by protozoa then the infection is called xxxx?? Secondly, can we make a statement which of the two parasite infections is more prevalent at a global level? Which one is infecting more people? I am mainly only aware of the the helminthiasis and not those caused by protozoa. Note we have to ensure this article does not repeat more than necessary any content that the reader should find at the helminthiasis article. It should be regarded as an overview article and not go into too much detail. EMsmile (talk) 00:35, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
[2]can be used for first question as to your second question[3]--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 02:43, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Could you, Ozzie10aaaa, weave a bit of content from there into the article please? It's not my area of expertise so it's a lot harder for me to do. Is there something like "protozoasis" just like we have "helminthiasis"? EMsmile (talk) 23:23, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(prior comment was about 2 weeks ago)will eventually come back to this article :-)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 23:46, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]