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Why not just re-word "Originating" ?

The Article is really about "Hong Kong Style", that is the milk tea found in 99% of HK cafes and restuarants. Wether it orginated in HK is besides the point. Therefore "Popular in HK since 19xx" would probably end this dispute.

Keeping the words "Hong Kong" in the main title is still relevant though, because it is talking about the type of tea found in 99% of any traditional HK cafe. The proof is there, you just have to go to HK to see that.

BTW, It is not the milk (which btw is not Carnation) that sweetens it, it's the syrup or sugar they add to it. (For the record: I have ordered tea from a Singapore cafe and what I got was the weak tea bag type flooded with Carnation milk - totally different). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Preroll (talk • contribs) 11:16, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Although it will be hard to prove, it most likely originated in HK. The term HK style came into wild spread usage in the 90's, when a lot of HKers migrate to other countries under the fear of the handing over in 1997. To entertain these people, and most probably by HKers who closed down cha chaan tengs and migrated, they started calling that style the HK style, which basically nobody called it HK style before then. Most called it dai pai dong milk tea(which faded out because a company registered the name and sold products of it) and "silk stocking" milk tea in the older days. —Preceding signed comment added by MythSearcher^talk 14:50, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The key feature of Hong Kong-style milk tea is that a sackcloth bag is used to filter the tea leaves. The bag, reputed to make the tea smoother, gradually develops an intense brown colour as a result of prolonged tea drenching.

Hong Kong style milk tea originates from Hong Kong

I'm going to end this fruitless discussion about the origin of Hong Kong style milk tea once and for all right now. I personally have done in-depth research on the topic for my IB EE, so I believe I can speak authoritatively on the issue. Hong Kong style milk tea in fact does originate from Hong Kong.

When the first cha chaan teng was established in Hong Kong (Queen's Cafe) in 1950, Hong Kong style Western food rapidly became very popular among the masses, and other people sought to copy their success by selling similar food products, thereby instituting the spread of this culture in Hong Kong. Queen's cafe in its original iteration doesn't exist anymore, so the eateries that appear on the Internet when you search the term are not the Queen's cafe I'm talking about. Evaporated milk at the time was also very popular in Hong Kong (which is why so many cha chaan tengs have evaporated milk-related foods), and cha chaan tengs therefore started mixing evaporated milk with tea and created a new drink called Hong Kong style milk tea. I've taken this information from academic journals online, so if you're willing to challenge it anymore, write an article about your insights and submit it for peer-reviewing before your start whining about it.

Some of you might note that in the past, a particular person drank a similar variation of milk tea, and therefore it should not be marketed as Hong Kong style milk tea. However, if you apply this logic to almost every type of food, you'll realize that a lot of food names are misnomers, and in similar circumstances no one would ask for the renaming of these food products. Therefore, the term Hong Kong style milk tea should be kept (just like how Hokkien fried rice originated from Hong Kong at first, but it's not called Hong Kong fried rice). Tseung Kwan O Let's talk 04:40, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

German variation

We drank this in Germany long before we knew where Hong Kong is: a) Quick version: Put tea leaves in cup, add boiling milk instead of water. b) Simmer tea leaves in milk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.78.75.150 (talk) 12:29, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

strong tea with milk?

Why is this a thing? People all over the world drink strong tea with milk, canned milk, condensed milk, etc. --2607:FEA8:D5DF:F945:1906:225D:9DBB:94B7 (talk) 17:32, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Beats me. I've skimmed through the article and I'm not really sure as to what makes this type of milk tea "unique". It's not exclusive to Hong Kong, nor was it originated there. Many different countries and cultures had independently invented an identical drink, shouldn't be all that surprising considering it's literally just tea and milk. ShelteredCook (talk) 11:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC) Blocked sock. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:55, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The uniqueness of Hong Kong-style milk tea is how the milk tea is prepared. STSC (talk) 11:47, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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