Talk:Honda Ridgeline (first generation)

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I've removed a good chunk of images from the article as there were an excessive amount[1],
Our readers don't really need to see:

"Exterior design highlights of the Gen1 Ridgeline",

"Design and functionality of the Gen1 Ridgeline's bed",

the rear interior,

an animation of the multi-function center console's configurations,

Gen1 Ridgeline's helm changes between 2008 and 2009 model years,

Fairings (lights on the front-bottom of the vehicle),

a rearview mirror,

rear bumpers,

rear tail lights,

Vehicle with OEM accessory roof rac,

Vehicle with aftermarket all-terrain tires,

Vehicle with OEM accessory tow hitch

and the police department vehicles,

I don't object to a few (5-8) images being readded as I've essentially gutted images from the article but there does not need to be 25 images in one article - That's simply excessive - If our readers want to see differences between tail lights or steering wheels they can simply do so via Commons. Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 10:31, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for expressing your opinion. As they say, "an image is worth a thousand words" and many of the images you want to remove were carefully chosen and/or created to illustrate or demonstrate a key feature or oddity as to not have to spend a lot of words describing it. Some of the images you want to remove are fair—which I have accepted—and others are not. Your deletion rational that Commons in the place for readers to try and find something that will help them figure something out, what something looks like that has been written about, or that helps juxtaposed journalist opinions and statements is not the purpose of Commons. The idea of excessive images is an opinion and since the images that remain help explain or make a specific point, they should remain.

Please note that your revision undid agreed upon changes and edits discussed on the overview article talk page. --McChizzle (talk) 16:33, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Both articles are way too-indepth, Things like differences between Gen 1 and 2 really aren't needed and some of the details and on Gen 2 really aren't needed either, Things like upholstery design, steering wheel differences and Animation of the multi-function center console's imho still aren't needed,

You must remember this is an Encyclopedia article not a brochure of the vehicle, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 17:22, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The images have been added again. I disagree that this content is appropriate for the article; there are numerous trivial details sourced to a conversation with a Honda engineer at an auto show that really aren't necessary. An example would be the photo of the air intake system with the caption "Illustration of how fresh air enters forward of the radiator and is directed to the airbox". We're not saving words by including photos when the content doesn't belong at all. –dlthewave ☎ 02:57, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Dlthewave. The Honda Ridgeline articles have far to much non-encyclopedic detail. The three Ridgeline articles could easily be cut back and recombined into a single article through a combination of cutting out much of the fluff and moving some of the details and information from the article text into tables. Springee (talk) 03:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Again have removed the images as per the fact there's way to many of them, I also agree that the article is over-detailed and too should be trimmed back,

Mhizzle you're more than welcome to add a few images back ones that are encyclopeic and or of use to our readers but frankly 25 images isn't that. 5-10 would be fine. –Davey2010^Talk 10:21, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've reinstated the air intake image as agree that's fine to be used, But the rest such as the boot, gif of an arm rest opening, vehicle going up a sandy hill etc etc really aren't needed. –Davey2010^Talk 10:31, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How about if the text is simplified into a list of changes but we keep the pictures. For example, what if I want to see the Gen 1 Ridgeline and its features. I can't go and see a Ridgeline because they were never sold in the UK. So for someone like me, it could be really interesting to look at the quirks and the features of the Ridgeline. Why waste this person's amazing effort on this article. Although I do agree that it could be shortened but there shouldn't be literal chunks taken out of it.--BootlegScarce (talk) 20:20 22 April 2020 (UTC)

I find it hard to believe you came here randomly and not by being asked by McChizzle, That aside the article is listed with all features and don't need images of all said features, You're more than welcome to join a car club or a specific website that discusses this vehicle in more depth. –Davey2010^Talk 21:02, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sales =/= Production

I can assure that no Ridgelines were produced for 2015. Few were sold in early 2015, but that doesn't mean they were produced in that time. Going by that logic, the Lexus LFA ended production in 2020 because few of these cars were sold in that year. 71.94.157.155 (talk) 19:15, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A car cannot legally be produced in the year after its model year. 71.94.157.155 (talk) 19:15, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Which source says that Ridgelines were produced (not just sold) in 2015? I've found none that say that, but several which mention production ending (or being projected to end) in 2014 [2][3][4]. –dlthewave ☎ 19:36, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the cited sources in the "First generation Ridgeline sales and production" table on this article, specifically Honda 2018 Digital FactBook—click on the cloud download icon on the right—(PDF page 28); 154 Ridgelines finished their assembly in 2015 but were sold as 2014 model year vehicles per all of Honda's sales information, some of the unofficial ones you have already cited. Also note that the first Ridgeline was sold as a 2006 model year vehicle but production started in late 2004. --McChizzle (talk) 01:19, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but that's strange, considering some automakers end production of their cars before the production year of the model year, in the case of the Chrysler 300M and Cadillac Seville. 71.94.157.155 (talk) 02:50, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]