Talk:Ghost Stories (Japanese TV series)

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Postponement?

Acorrding to the japanese page of this,it says that an episode was postponed

放映中止問題

2000年11月5日に放映予定だった第3話「あたしきれい? 口裂け女」が口唇口蓋裂の障害者団体からの抗議を受け、急遽第1話・第2話の総集編「特別編!!霊眠の恐怖」に差し替えられた。

Do you know why it was postponed??

Subpar series ?

"Though considered a fairly subpar series by many critics and fans"

I think this is a very subjective statement as I haven't seen that many negative reviews, and on the contrary fans of anime horror like this show (as seen on the "Black Moon" critic). Could you propose some links to reviews that support this statement, please ?

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move to Ghost Stories (anime) with Ghost Stories redirecting to Ghost Story. Joelito (talk) 03:27, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ghosts at School → Ghost stories – Official English title [1] --TheFarix (Talk) 14:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Support~~ Rename to Ghost Stories (anime) The official name of the anime series given by ADV Films, the holder of the English language rights, is Ghost Stories. --TheFarix (Talk) 14:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Ghost Stories (anime), "Ghost Stories" is too generic. 132.205.45.148 17:50, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Ghost Stories (anime), considering this was moved just the other day without discussion or request. Papacha 17:56, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support Ghost Stories currently redirects here. Adding the (anime) is completely unecessary. But always use the official English title for a translated work Jay32183 19:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support Whether you like it or not, the official English translation should be used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MightyAtom (talk • contribs)
Rename to Ghost Stories (anime) per discussion. Voice of Treason 14:18, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Sorry, Ghost Stories should redirect to Ghost story, and disambiguation can occur from there. Kevin_b_er
Oppose - The official and more well-known English title of this series is Ghosts at School, as translated and dubbed into English by the anime network Animax and broadcast across over tens of millions English-speaking audiences (reference) across Southeast Asia and the Indian Subcontinent - see Animax East Asia's page for Ghosts at School and Animax South Asia's page for Ghosts at School for more information - this series was dubbed and adapted into English by Animax and broadcast across millions of English-speaking audiences in Asia, therefore being the more widely-known English title, long before ADV's North American licensing. - Ganryuu 09:19, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - Ghost Stories is far too generic, especially as a film/anime title. That page should redirect to the disambig Ghost Story, a hub where like-minded articles (some even by the same name) are credited. I believe Ghost Stories (anime) would be the proper referral in this case. Papacha 20:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ghost Stories (anime) would work and Ghost Stories can be redirected to the Ghost Story disambig page. --TheFarix (Talk) 00:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
While I'm not going to propose an opinion about the move itself, I'd like to object to the specific rationale that the new title should be used because it's the official English title. See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)#Fictional Character Discussion Result?. "This is an official title" is not a proper reason to rename an article. You are supposed to use the most well-known title. Even if in this case the official title is most well-known, it should be used because of that, not just because it's an official title. Ken Arromdee 16:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This series has been translated, dubbed and adapted into English by Animax, whose official version is entitled Ghosts at School, and broadcast across over 25 million English-speaking audiences (reference) across Southeast Asia and the Indian Subcontinent, long, long before ADV Films even licensed this series for North American distribution - see Animax East Asia's page for Ghosts at School and Animax South Asia's page for Ghosts at School. To humbly correct the nominator, ADV does not hold the "English-language rights", it holds the North American distribution rights - whereas Animax has already long before adapted this series in English, and distributed this series across millions of English-speaking audiences across Asia, therefore being the more widely-known English title. - Ganryuu 09:19, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Racist humor in the ADV dub?

Well, I only saw this cartoon in Japanese, but this article made me wonder about the humor employed by ADV in their dub. I thought Americans were more sensitive to these kinds of racist jokes... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.38.101.16 (talk) 21:19, 11 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

We both are and aren't. As the South Park boys have pointed out, only black people can really get away with using the n-word, for one thing, but black comedians use it all the time. Jewish jokes are usually tolerated up to a point, I think largely because it's self-deprecating Jews that propagate a lot of them (for instance, Jon Stewart of The Daily Show, or some o f Fran Drescher's humor on The Nanny). Also, poking fun at racists is almost universally acceptable, including poking fun at "Christian" fundamentalists who're well, a little less than tolerant (and who are a very vocal minority in the U.S., unfortunately. Just look at Jack Chick and Fred Phelps). It sounds like the latter two are the only "racist" or racism-related humor included in this dub, in which case it might very well not be considered offensive by American standards (depends on how horribly stereotypical "Leo"'s portrayal is). I mean, poking fun at anime cliches does not sound "racist" - it did just occur to me that poking fun at Japanese culture might seem "racist" to some, but to be frank, the Japanese themselves do it all the time in animation; and Americans will just as gleefully poke fun of American culture and cultural values (see: The Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, South Park, Drawn Together, Daria and many more) in much the same way. So unless it goes past a certain limit, it probably would not be considered "racist" by current American standards. Especially when you keep in mind that it would probably be by people who like Japanese culture, and thus would be much like the South Park guys' parodies of many movies (like 300): irreverant, but still somehow affectionate. (I still haven't seen the series though, so I can neither confirm nor deny whether the series comes off as offensively racist to me)Runa27 09:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re-merging list of ghosts.

I do not agree with the creation of a separate article for the list of ghosts and would like to see it merged back into the article. The original size of 20 KB is only two thirds of the recommended article size limit. I see no benefit to the separate list. LittleOldMe 12:38, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agree here. Keep it separate. Ominae 08:41, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:06, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Transwiki

Greetings, people. I notice there is information about the Spanish dub of the series in this article. What I'll do after writing this is to merge that information to that of the Spanish version of the article; meanwhile, the information in the infobox still can be there. --Twicemost (talk) 13:50, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT (six minutes later): The change has been done, but if you think there was something I missed or did wrong, you can go to the history of the article to fix it. Have a great morning ^_^. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twicemost (talk • contribs) 13:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possible source to add to article with

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1736 It's pretty good I think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuvaco (talk • contribs) 04:44, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ANN's encyclopedia section is not a reliable source because the information is user-generated and there is little oversite to verify it on their end. —Farix (t | c) 10:32, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Misconception that the show was a failure in Japan

The show actually wasn't a failure. This Reddit post with links by Shigofumi provides proof ^[1] I am going to remove text from the page that says the show failed in Japan. 86.41.149.16 (talk) 15:29, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/4zabk4/i_read_somehwere_that_ghost_stories_was_actually/

[1] ttps://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/4zabk4/i_read_somehwere_that_ghost_stories_was_actually/

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