Talk:Circle Social Chart

Chart launch date

Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea § Gaon Social Chart launch date

 – Carlobunnie (talk) 05:56, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Possible overlap on song chart ending/artist chart beginning

Ïvana I'm asking for you eyes again. I found missing archives that indicate the song vers of the social chart continued until atleast the wk 27 issue ending Jul 6 and updated the article accordingly. I couldn't locate any song chart archives for Jul 7–13 (wk 28) or 14–20 (wk 29). Wayback archives of the Gaon homepage show that there was no chart for the period Jul 14–20 (chart heading is titled "Social Chart 2.0" indicating the new artist chart not the old song vers), none for Jul 21–27, and none for Jul 28–Aug 3.
The artist chart table starts with wk 27 ending Jul 6, even though the first archive of the new 2.0 chart, dated Jul 19, 2019 (the day the chart revamp was announced via k-media), is for the period Aug 4–10. The chart's drop-down menu shows 5 issues for the 5 weeks prior to that period, which would take us back to the Jul 6 date I mentioned above. Kmedia articles (this is the one I used in the lead) mention that BTS was #1 on the new social 2.0 chart for the periods Jun 30–Jul 6 & Jul 7–13 (wks 27+28). Does this mean therefore that there was an overlap in both charts for wk 27? Or did I just confuse myself over nothing? -- Carlobunnie (talk) 05:07, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie: Yeah from what I could find seems like they included week 27 in both charts for some reason. I really don't understand why the first archive shows weeks in advance, because according to karticles when the new one was announced the only weeks known were 27 & 28. Looking in wayback seems like the chart was frozen til mid september and then all the missing data was added?? That's the only thing that confuses me. But other than that yes, there was an overlap. - Ïvana (talk) 06:56, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ïvana: ok, glad to know I didn't just misread the chart or something. Iirc, acc to some of the notices gaon posted at the top right of the site, the freeze/missing data was because they hadn't gotten data from one or two sites so they had to recalculate everything and then publish it later on, or something like that.
I added the 4 missing wks I found to the BTS total, then excluded the overlapping wk, so the 125 count should be correct, but if it doesn't seem like I keep bothering you over trivial stuff, would you mind double checking the count is correct? Also, do you think the last section should be converted into a table as well? It's only after I converted the songs section that I wondered whether I should've left it as is or not. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 07:21, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie: I got 130 for BTS. Number of weeks at #1 per year: 2015 (1), 2016 (7), 2017 (16), 2018 (32), 2019 (16 -old- + 22 -2.0 excluding week 27-), 2020 (23), 2021 (13 so far). 4minute has 10, not 7 (3 in 2014, 4 in 2015 and 3 in 2016). The rest match but Gfriend is missing (they have 5 weeks - 1 in 2016, 2 in 2017, 1 in 2018 and 1 in 2019). If you want to include the 10th place to make it a top ten then VIXX, Shinhwa and Seventeen have 4 weeks (Chen also has 4 but one is from a subunit I think? not sure if that counts). And yes, I would convert the last section to a table just so it fits with the rest because now it kinda looks out of place. - Ïvana (talk) 18:34, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ïvana: yeah I purposely didn't convert it because I was unsure about which way was better. And it's like you read my mind, because yes I was going to include 10th place! I hadn't done recounts for anyone as yet, including BTS (I just changed the total based on what was already there), so tysm for checking over everything altogether. I kind of thought you would've gone ahead+made the corrections/updates once you checked over everything but you didn't. Any particular reason why? It's not like I'm trying to get you to do the work for me or anything. I just know you used to update the page at one point and then stopped. I didn't notice at first until I realized I hadn't see it pop up on my watchlist in a while, which is when I started on it. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 20:13, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie: Oh I didn't update it because I was busy a few hours ago, it took me some time to recount everything so I answered you and logged off. I was going to now that I'm free for a bit but I see you beat me to it. Sorry! And I don't remember updating this page at all (it wasn't on my watchlist). I do update the Digital Chart and Album Chart articles regularly, and pretty much everything related to Gaon.. now thinking about it idk why I ignored this one. But I'm always happy to help - Ïvana (talk) 21:23, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ïvana: ah, my bad then. Guess my mind just automatically attached your name to all the gaon chart pages since you update them so regularly. Just checked back the page history and saw it was Jihkilan who used to update this, not you 🤦🏽‍♀️. And please, you have nothing to apologize for. I'm always super appreciative of your assistance.
For the most wks artist table, does the order need adjusting where multiple artists share a ranking, like what I did for the songs table? -- Carlobunnie (talk) 21:43, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie: I was just updating that. It now goes from most to least recent to match the songs table. On that one BWL's weeks were wrong and the values for Count and Year were mixed in some instances so I fixed them. Lmk if there's anything wrong! - Ïvana (talk) 22:15, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ïvana: thanks sm for the fixes. If there's a mistake I probably can't tell, I've been pretty slow at detecting those lately, but it looks good so I think you got it all right. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 23:03, 17 June 2021 (UTC)