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I seriously doubt the SMX Ocean and the Shortfin Barracuda are the same product

"A conventionally powered derivative, initially dubbed the SMX-Ocean, now known as the Shortfin Barracuda,[8] was selected as a future replacement for the Collins-class vessels with the Royal Australian Navy.[9]"

This is doubtful, from meretmarine.com (probably the biggest news source in French for naval issues): http://www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/dcns-devoile-un-nouveau-sous-marin-oceanique-dote-de-piles-combustible, the SMX Ocean uses fuel cells and vertical launchers for VL MICA missiles. This is confirmed in commercial videos from DCNS themselves on youtube. The SMX Ocean on the other hand, still on the commercial videos, does not appear to feature pump jets. The Shortfin Barraduca is a casual Barracuda sub with a conventional propulsion and an American combat management system rather than the French one. There's different projects both based on the Barracuda hull. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.68.164.96 (talk) 06:07, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

PROPULSION?

Propulsion and power: 2 turboreductors groups (10 MW propulsion alternator feeding electric engines) Nuclear reactor K15, 150 MW 2 emergency electric engines

Are you sure about the power of a K15 reactor? With such a power the submarine should reach more, much more than 40 knots...

Moreover according to my sources a K15 reactor on Le Triumphant or on Charles de Gaulles has a power of only 30 MW (2nd April 2008 by Mario) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.201.51.176 (talk) 20:01, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Both information are correct ; including CdG witch use the same technologies. v_atekor (talk) 14:36, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Shortfin Barracuda

I think the displacements shown in the side panel for the Shortfin Baracuda are the wrong way round. Normally in submarines the surface weight is lighter than the submerged weight (as it is for the nuke version above it). 1.129.96.196 (talk) 12:24, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The displacement figures don't make sense.---Now wiki (talk) 19:54, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Shortfin Barracuda 4500t surfaced and 4000t submerged ???

Where does these numbers come from, they doesn't make any sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.112.232.102 (talk) 15:53, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Unusual description of CEA (Commissariat à l'Énergie Atomique)

In the History paragraph there is the following description of CEA:

"and the Commissariat a l'Énergie Atomique, a regulatory body that oversees nuclear power plants"

I think this description is erroneous as the CEA is more a state controlled research institution for things that have mainly to do with nuclear. Frances regulatory body for nuclear power plants is ASN (autorité de sureté nucléaire) for all civilian nuclear installation (military installation have a specific regime).

(For context : The prototypes for the nuclear reactor of the nuclear subs/aircraft carriers were built in one of the CEA installation, the military Application of CEA was in charge of building the nuclear heads of the French dissuasion force.)

I am unsure of what the best way to describe CEA is in English (not my native language) bur regulatory body is definitely wrong.--128.237.146.192 (talk) 13:48, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading title

Barracuda isn't the name of the class but the name of the program of the manufacturer (Naval Group and Avera TA) the official name of the French submarine is Suffren-class, the Australian version is named Attack-class. Here is a reference from a press article following the visit of the shipyard of Cherbourg where the submersibles are constructed. It is stated that the submarines are of Suffren-class from the Barracuda Program. https://www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/sur-le-chantier-des-sous-marins-de-classe-suffren-cherbourg

That is in French. In English sources, such as [1], [2], [3], it is called the Barracuda class. If you would like to use French only sources, might I suggest editing the French wikipedia. Llammakey (talk) 10:23, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Even French sources (including Naval Group's own website) refer to the Barracuda-class. The article needs renaming. Superboilles (talk) 07:07, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm adding Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(ships)#Naming_articles_about_ship_classes to the record of this discussion. Looks like both Suffren-class and Barracuda-class would be acceptable, the difference being that a class named after a ship is italicized, whereas a class named after a common feature (here the program) would not. Since there will be several international versions of these submarines, it looks like Barracuda-class would be most neutral. Superboilles (talk) 18:36, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Misplaced sentence

This sentence seems to have been misplaced, probably in a recent edit after Australia changed their mind about buying the Barracuda from France: "The reactors are sealed and last for the lifetime of the submarine because they run on weapons-grade uranium that can be used to make nuclear weapons, unlike the ones France uses which have to be serviced every ten years.[28]" This sentence about the differences between French and American/British nuclear submarines is out of place in the paragraph about the non-nuclear version of the Barracuda. 62.205.90.67 (talk) 06:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]