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The Ending
[edit]Why is there no mention of the ending? It was somewhat unique and worth noting. [unsigned]
Plot Summary
[edit]Can we get more of a movie summary up here? Right now, all I know is that the movie is about a guy who tries to order toast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psouth100 (talk • contribs) 09:49, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- Here's a second vote for some kind of plot summary. CFLeon (talk) 02:09, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
There is a factual error in plot summary:
"At a gas station, he abandons Rayette when she goes in for some coffee, hitching a ride on a truck." is wrong. I just finished watching the ending of the film. Her is how it goes:
At the gas station, Robert goes to use the restroom. As he goes in, a semi hauling logs pulls up between Robert's car which is at the gas pumps, and the restroom that Robert has just gone into, blocking the view from the car. In the restroom nothing is said, but you can see that Robert is thinking about something. He leaves the restroom, and speaks to the truck driver who is checking his rig. We can't hear what they say, but the truck driver gets in his truck, and Robert gets in the truck on the passenger side, unseen by Rayette who is still in the car at the pumps. Inside the truck, Robert tells the truck driver that everything he had was burned up, all he has is what he has got on. When Robert declines the trucker's offer of a jacket, the trucker says "Suit yourself, but I'll tell you one thing, where we're going it's going to get colder than hell." The truck pulls away, and Rayette gets out of the car, looking for Robert.
I only posted this since I found the part about Rayette going in for coffee sort of confusing. Whoever cares to work on this article, feel free to fix the plot entry as you will. What I describe above is obviously too much for the article. I would just say something like:
"Robert abandons Rayette and the car when they stop for gas."
Kid Bugs (talk) 21:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
- Not sure I concur, Kid Bugs. Rayette does get out of the car and go in for coffee as Bobby gets out to go to the men's room; he has given her his whole wallet to pay for the coffee. The truck pulls up as he goes in. We spend 1:05 in there with him and when he comes out, he speaks with the driver, then climbs into the cab and the truck pulls out. Rayette must have returned to the car in the meantime, because as the truck leaves, the passenger door of the car opens and she emerges. She speaks inaudibly with the attendent, he points the way and she heads toward the men's room. I hope she had returned to the car in that 1:05 — I'd hate to think it's some continuity gaffe. And I think your proposed ending line is just fine. — HarringtonSmith (talk) 07:30, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Ester Eggs
[edit]The name of Robert's sister, Partita Dupea, is a reference to a set of Bach harpsichord suites, appropriate for a musical family. Her vocalizing during recordings is a reference to the same trait by Glenn Gould. 96.63.53.152 (talk) 13:07, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Charles Higham quote
[edit]Dear Kingturtle: According to Wiki Rules, the quotation in question appears to be short enough, at 113 words, to be appropriate.
The quote from film historian Charles Higham provides an key insight into the film's ending that improves the article. That, and the relative brevity of his remarks don't appear to have "broken any rules."
From Wikipedia:Quotations:
"The copied material should not comprise a substantial portion of the work being quoted and a long quotation should not be used where a shorter quotation would express the same information. What constitutes a substantial portion depends on many factors, such as the length of the original work, and the importance and relevance of the quoted text to that work. In one extreme case, Harper & Row v. Nation Enterprises, the quotation of 400 words from a 500-page book were ruled to be infringement. The Court reasoned that publishing those 400 words before the book was available for sale significantly damaged the value of the entire book because the 400 words contained highly controversial breaking news. For this reason, Wikipedia should not publish quotations from books that have not yet been published.[7] Editors are advised to exercise good judgment and to remain mindful that while brief excerpts are permitted by policy, extensive quotations are forbidden.
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(Bold added for emphasis)
Bobby: Okay, I’ll make it as easy for you as I can. I’d like an omelet, plain, and a chicken salad sandwich on wheat toast, no mayonnaise, no butter, no lettuce and a cup of coffee.
Waitress: A #2, chicken salad sand. Hold the butter, the lettuce, the mayonnaise, and a cup of coffee. Anything else?
Bobby: Yeah, now all you have to do is hold the chicken, bring me the toast, give me a check for the chicken salad sandwich, and you haven’t broken any rules.
Waitress: You want me to hold the chicken, huh?
Bobby: I want you to hold it between your knees. --Lord Such&Such (talk) 15:38, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- The reason I removed the quote had nothing to do with fair use. It had to do with quote farming. 1) "Quotations embody the breezy, emotive style common in fiction and some journalism, which is generally not suited to encyclopedic writing" and 2) "Long quotations crowd the actual article and distract attention from other information" both apply here. Overuse happens when "quotations are used to explain a point that can be paraphrased" and "the quotations dominate the article or section." The Higham quotation can be summarized in a quarter of the word and can be incorporated into the Critical response section of the article. Would you like to give it a go? Or I can try. Best, Kingturtle = (talk) 23:58, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- As you wish. --Lord Such&Such (talk) 17:57, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
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