Talk:Fight Club

Genre

It can fall into one of two categories: black comedy psychological thriller or Neo-noir psychological thriller. There must be "psychological" and "there must be thriller". Black comedy works better. It has every characteristic of a black comedy (regular violence, careless death and injury, and brutal interpersonal conflict) while hinging utterly on a twist that hurls the film into the psychological realm. It must have the world thriller because at its core the movie intends to challenge what we unconsciously believe is safe and secure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.112.53 (talk • contribs) 04:41, May 15, 2024 (UTC)

Hello! So this film has been labeled with many different genres, including what you've mentioned, but there has not been a consensus among reliable sources about the most common one, which is why it has been left empty. (And we need to use reliable sources here, we as editors cannot go with what we personally think.) We have guidelines at WP:FILMLEAD to follow. We are not necessarily compelled to name a genre in the opening sentence, and we can instead use the rest of the lead section to write about the nature of the film. See a 2017 discussion about this Talk:Fight Club/Archive 5 § Genre? Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 12:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Idk if this helps but the afi (american film institute) has it labelled as a drama, while allmovie says it’s a satire or psychological thriller, these are two very reliable websites that are heavily used in other articles so maybe this could work possibly? I’d rather ask first than add stuff before telling Pomniismywife (talk) 04:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Production

Is this possibly too detailed? Drsruli (talk) 02:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

I think it is on par with other Featured Articles in terms of "Production" sections, like American Beauty (1999 film) and Tender Mercies. It actually does not reference some Fincher-focused books, so it's possible it could be longer. (Though at that point, it could be split off into its own sub-article, leaving behind a summary section of 2-3 paragraphs.) Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 03:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Category

Could it also go under the "Films about schizophrenia" category?

--2604:3D08:7786:F100:2F4C:FC68:CB0F:8D09 (talk) 05:26, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

I have found that reliable sources consider the Narrator's experience to be dissociative identity disorder (with dramatic license taken), and we already have the film in that category: Category:Films about dissociative identity disorder. I think this is sufficient. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 14:13, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Genre

the genre of the film is action thriller. Why don't you want it to mention in the page? Arthursunrise (talk) 05:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Listed genres must come from WP:SECONDARY sources with named authors describing the film in prose (rather than automated genre tags on web pages). I've seen good sources saying it is a psychological thriller[1][2] or drama thriller.[3] Roger Ebert described it as an action movie but he did not mention thriller.[4] Hope that helps you decide what to do. Binksternet (talk) 06:33, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Says who? SubSeven (talk) 05:42, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Starring 2024

Regarding the "Starring" parameter in the film infobox, this came up in 2022 as seen at Talk:Fight Club/Archive 5 § Starring, and it continued at Template talk:Infobox film/Archive 32 § Starring. Currently, the Template:Infobox film says, "In general, use the billing block of the poster for the film's original theatrical release as a rule of thumb for listing starring actors... An alternative approach may be determined by local consensus." The billing block is not the best rule of thumb here because Meat Loaf and Jared Leto are nowhere near headlined compared to Pitt, Norton, and Bonham Carter. Reliable sources about the film bear that out in repeating the three names together much more often than five, so it is due weight to focus on the three. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 03:38, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Plot section

The first mention of Fight Club in the plot section doesn't explain any background, making it difficult to understand if read as a standalone text. Did that section use to be longer but cropped a bit too hard? - Tournesol (talk) 10:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean — the first mention of Fight Club the novel? Popcornfud (talk) 13:34, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

This is what the beginning of the Plot section currently looks like:

The unnamed Narrator, who struggles with insomnia and dissatisfaction with his job and lifestyle, finds temporary solace in support groups. As his insomnia worsens, he discovers that expressions of emotional vulnerability help him sleep, leading him to join multiple groups for people facing emotionally distressing problems, despite his expressions being fraudulent. His efforts are thwarted when Marla Singer, another impostor, joins the same groups. The Narrator cannot present his fabricated struggles as genuine, or divert his attention from her presence as an impostor, causing his sleeplessness to return. He arranges for them to attend different sessions to regain his ability to sleep and, under certain circumstances, to exchange contact information, to which she reluctantly agrees.

On a return flight from work, the Narrator meets a soap salesman, Tyler Durden. After an explosion destroys the Narrator's apartment, he moves into Tyler's decrepit house. They become friends and start an underground fight club in a bar basement. Tyler also saves Marla from an overdose, initiating a sexual relationship between them, while the Narrator remains cold to her.

The Narrator quits his job, blackmails his boss for funds, and grows Fight Club, attracting new members, including his cancer support group friend, Bob...

The first mention of Fight Club seems to be in and grows Fight Club in the third paragraph when the Narrator grows it. Wouldn't it make sense to explain the concept earlier? - Tournesol (talk) 14:11, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I see "underground fight club" mentioned in the second paragraph. Is that not sufficient? Maybe "Fight Club" should just be "the fight club"? I don't know there's a basis for a titlecase mention in the plot summary. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 14:17, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I came to exactly the same conclusion. Edited. Popcornfud (talk) 14:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)