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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 11, 2018.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Elizabeth Kekaʻaniau (pictured) was the last surviving royal student from the Chiefs' Children's School, a select school for the nobles and rulers of the Kingdom of Hawaii?

Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on December 20, 2017, and December 20, 2023.

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"Daughter of Chief Laanui Friend of Hawaiian Kings Still Active At Age of 94". The Honolulu Advertiser. Honolulu. September 11, 1928. pp. 1–2 – via Newspapers.com. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |subscription= ignored (|url-access= suggested) (help)
https://www.crownofhawaii.com/claim/ not a good source to use but tool for further research from the clips
https://www.newspapers.com/image/259234114/?terms=Kekaaniau involvement with St. Andrews
https://www.newspapers.com/image/81364414/?terms=%22F.%2BS.%2BPratt%22

Census

"United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM5V-8H6 : accessed 5 July 2018), Elizabeth K Pratt, Honolulu District, Honolulu, Hawaii Territory, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 7, sheet 18A, family 169, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,241,836.
not founded yet???
"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SP8L-MM9 : accessed 5 July 2018), Elizabeth Pratt in household of Dwight Styne, Honolulu, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States; citing ED 36, sheet 2A, line , family 14, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 2036; FHL microfilm 1,822,036.

Princess

There should not be any use of the term princess for Kekaaniau. She was never given this title or receive it from the court officially. There are no sources using this term for her own lifetime and we need to respect the historical truth. Using it will be an anachronism. This is same situation with Bernice Pauahi Bishop who was an alii but not a person who held any Western titles during her lifetime but have since been popularly referred to as a princess. In the course of 19th century Hawaiian history, only the immediate family of the king and relatives given special Royal patents were officially princes and princesses. –KAVEBEAR (talk) 16:59, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I’m going to try to get this article to good article status. See the article of Liliuokalani for example. But we need to careful with the prose in terms of staying away from redundant descriptives or overuse of links and titles.–KAVEBEAR (talk) 13:25, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1896 references as Kama'liiwahine [1]

According to the general consensus of editors the use of an honorary title may be used if sources refer to the subject as such.--Mark Miller (talk) 06:26, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The 1896 reference above does specifically use the Hawaiian word for "Princess" and is within her lifetime.--Mark Miller (talk) 06:30, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Painting

Newspaper clip about the 1985 unveiling of the original painting by Mary Koski. Article called her the commissioned artist. It does not name the person who commissioned it though.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21817701/

Based on this news clipping from 1989, the portrait of Kekaaniau is entirely different from the Koski work at Kawaiahao Church. Has anybody ever taken a photograph of the one at the Royal School? The newspaper could have gotten it wrong and taken a photograph of the wrong painting but unless we have anything else to counter this. KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:49, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21817634/elizabeth_kekaaniaus_portrait_at/
Commons has received an OTRS ticket for the painting. It can also be updated now with a newer image if need be. I have one if you wish for a better image of the painting.--Mark Miller (talk) 06:33, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Public domain images

This image should reach the public domain next year.KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:23, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1928 birthday and obituary image by the Honoulu Star-Bulletin