Talk:Penn State fraternity hazing scandal

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Call to Renovate Article

This article is in serious need of renovation. The most recent version, which I've slightly edited unless that has been reversed, implies that the three deaths were together and not the separate incidents that they were. Each should be provided a separate sub-heading. As it is, the lead paragraphs and body imply that all three were connected with the Beta tragedy when they were not and occurred in different years. The deaths should either be separated into different articles or, if the scandal at Penn State is about its student deaths, then all other deaths should be added as well.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted as an attack or a negative unsourced biography of a living person, because, if the article is correct, the subject is not a living person any more. --Robert McClenon (talk) 01:11, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted as an attack or a negative unsourced biography of a living person, because ...

(1.) Piazza is not a "living person".

(2.) This article is not an "attack".

(3.) This article is not "negative".

(4.) This article is not "unsourced".

Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:14, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To do list

Add Info Box for Crime
Add Info Box for Victim

Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:31, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Needs update on criminal info

At least 4 of the fraternity members have been found guilty and have been sentenced. Three of them, twenty-one-year-olds Luke Visser, Michael Bonatucci, and Joseph Sala aren't even listed in the article as being among the persons charged. The fourth, Joshua Kurczewski, also 21 received a sentence of up to nine months. Don't know what has happened to the many others.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/timothy-piazza-hazing-death-judge-hands-down-first-jail-sentences-in-death-of-penn-state-student/ 2601:14A:503:64C0:650A:DBD5:33F4:BDF1 (talk) 21:11, 8 March 2021 (UTC) [have been unable to recover my wikipedia account. ileanadu].[reply]

Egregious POV-pushing

This paragraph:

After the preliminary hearings, a number of defense attorneys colluded against former District Attorney Stacy Parks Miller.[19] Frank Fina, disgraced attorney who sabotaged the career of Kathleen Kane, led the attack against Parks Miller.[20] Notable dissidents against Parks Miller include Joseph L. Amendola and Matthew McClenahen. On February 8, 2019, Parks Miller received a law license suspension of one year and one day.[21] Parks Miller was defended by Bruce Castor throughout the trial.[22]

needs some serious cleanup. Specifically, "colluded," "disgraced," "sabotage," and "attack" clearly violate NPOV.

The first sentence is unsupported by the provided source ( https://onwardstate.com/2017/05/15/centre-county-da-race-muddled-with-sexist-attack-mailers/ ). The second sentence's assertion that Fina was behind the investigation into Parks Miller is unsupported by the provided source ( https://www.timesherald.com/news/prosecutor-kathleen-kane-on-a-mission-of-revenge/article_a851313f-d032-55ea-bd26-77c54ad79d06.html ). The third sentence is unsupported by the provided source ( https://www.lockhaven.com/news/local-news/2019/02/former-da-parks-millers-law-license-suspended/ ).

As supported by the sources, the paragraph should read

On February 8, 2019, Parks Miller received a law license suspension of one year and one day for communicating improperly with judges and defense attorneys.[21] Parks Miller was defended by Bruce Castor throughout her trial.[22]

I'm not convinced that this is actually relevant to the article, but I'll be leaving it for now. -Waidawut (talk) 19:29, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Wikihow6754 FYI -Waidawut (talk) 19:37, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]