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islamic extremists are trying to blame hindus for their problems islam recognises social segretation beetween social classes as well as muslims and nonmuslims the muslims are said to have higher authority over nonmuslims.

and why does this article mentions about hindu castes they have no relation to muslims muslims formed their castes from their holy book.

nonsense argument, please delete this from the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.211.81.73 (talk) 00:58, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your claims of Islam having a system that can be compared to the Hindu caste system is unfounded and blatantly wrong. Your claims have no evidence and your comment here contributes nothing to the conversation. Inkscape Salafi (talk) 15:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Casteism in kashmir

The ‘Partial Brahminization’ Of Kashmir Dr Fayyaz Ahmed, Assistant Professor of Sociology at the University of Kashmir, explains the root of caste in the Valley: “Brahmins – when the Kashmir Valley was predominantly Hindu – formed the educated elite who enjoyed enormous power and respect. Understandably, their hegemonic social codes remained in place long after people converted en masse to Islam. Accordingly, jobs considered ‘polluting’ in Brahmanical society such as manual scavenging and skinning animals continued to be looked down upon. Likewise, Kashmiri Pandits or Brahmins traditionally ate the flesh of lamb and goats and like Hindus everywhere, abstained from beef. Although Islam’s dietary laws permit beef consumption, it is still considered a poor man’s meat in the Valley. My colleague Dr Farah and I have termed this process of cultural and social emulation ‘Partial Brahmanization’.” - source the Quint! Indianside (talk) 12:49, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mughal

mughal is not ashraf they are currently in carpentry class in pakistan and ashraf there are mostly brahmins and rajputs like rahil sharif is a bhatti rajput and gama sharif pehlwan is a kashmir brahmin mostly sharif ashraf there are brahmin & rajput who are descendants of hindu high caste Indianside (talk) 13:00, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rajputs and Mughals

When the Mughals were ruling, they did not call themselves Mongol Turks, they called themselves Gurkani, which means son-in-law's kingship, son-in-law of Rajputs and father-in-law of Rajputs, they called themselves Gurkani! Most of the Mughals used to walk with Rajputs, even today there are 7 NEHS military award of Rajputs in Pakistan! And now the Mughals there are left only of carpenter blacksmith caste whom Rajputs don't even ask, That's why mughal should not be called Ashraf! Indianside (talk) 13:18, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Phrase

I removed a phrase in the first sentence of the "History" section that claims, "Islam requires and does recognize caste..." This is blatantly false and who ever wrote this is a liar. To back up their claim, they cite page 27 of Ghaus Ansari's book Muslim Caste In Uttar Pradesh, which does not at all mention Islam recognizing caste. Additionally, page 27 of said book is actually the first page of a chapter dedicated to explaining the contradiction between Islam and caste. The person who wrote "Islam recognizes caste" was probably a hurt Hindu who wants to accuse Islam of casteism to make himself feel better instead of actually defending caste as a standalone concept promoted and justified by Hinduism.

Ghaus Ansari's Book: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.53982/page/n29/mode/2up Inkscape Salafi (talk) 15:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]