Talk:Cape Bojador
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[edit]Just a note: "Bulging Cape" is just a a direct translation to english of the portuguese name "Cabo Bojador". Avgrilo (talk) 00:07, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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Being realistic, most people will come across the words 'Cape Bojador', not from an interest in Morocco nor in Western Sahara/POLISARIO, but from the medievalPortuguese Voyages of Navigation. In this regard, the article addresses the task admirably.
The box warning of 'weasel words' seems bizarre and uncalled-for. Either the original issues have been amended and the box should be removed, or somebody should clarify which words are loaded. Perhaps the English expression has been misunderstood and (innocently) misused. The box regarding references could stay, though, to be fair, key references are already given, viz. both navigational manuals, and historical literary references. A specific Navigator is named, allowing a reader to link to the history of European (ie. Portuguese) maritime progress, and dates fix it to a set time in history. The 'Historical Significance' section is particularly strong in explaining why this landmark stands out among the many others between Portugal and India. The reason appears to be immortalisation in a poem (an 'epic in verse' might be a happier phrase than 'a longer poem'...?).The poem is named, the author is given and we are even given the original Portuguese, allowing further research. We can see (like, say, the word, Timbuktoo/Tombouctou) that the real place has become Decontextualised, and has become part of a general metaphor in Portuguese for courage. The article does lack balance: the last 500 years are covered in 5 lines! It needs, in particular, two more 'linking' articles: a. Imperialism: the Spanish administration: Spanish Sahara, linking with Spanish Morocco (Marueccos) as Spanish North Africa. b. Its place in the post-1975 Moroccan/Saharwi/(Algerian) relations. eg. Is/was it the administrative centre of the region? Some pictures and details of the Cape, the town and the economy of the area would help. One suspects a dreary, dusty 'hole' in which not a lot goes on: it would be great to find a thriving market-economy and unexpectedly picturesque period architecture (like Havana or Asmara) instead. The bulk of the article sounds like the work of 1 individual: probably male, probably British, probably a sailor with personal experience of the area, probably several years over 35... They have written a good article, with little (nothing?) to criticise as far as it goes. Its only fault is that it is a Start and needs expansion, preferably from other perspectives. Some Saharwi, Moroccan, Portuguese and Spanish input is required. There is an interest in current maritime issues which would be expanded into a distinct paragraph: some relief from historic and political concerns... There is probably a community of expatriate (British and others) sailors based in the Canaries looking for cruiser destinations. What is crime like here: afloat? ashore? Is there a valid harbour nearby? If so, is it worth visiting? Recreationally: cafes? Chandlers: can they repair auxiliary motors? sails? rigging? hulls? People know the area is in dispute and so might avoid it. Furthermore, in recent times Europeans (ie. tourists) have become wary of independent travel to Arab countries. That could be like avoiding Brazil because Argentina and Chile are in dispute: if so, let's have details of Travel Safety. There seemed to be a note of optimism with Saharwis returning to the area, and some economic life being generated. A paragraph on current trends would help.A great Start but if anything has happened in the last 500 years, can somebody tell us about it, please?78.145.19.161 (talk) 13:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC) |
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