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Image needed?

This article is fairly large, with usually over a thousand page views daily, don't you think it needs an image? There are tons of images in the Commons we could use. It would certainly help. Does anyone have any opinions?

Thanks, Clearfrienda ^💬 13:53, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

There is no doubt more images relating specifically to the article, especially those in 2021, are needed. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 15:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I did a photo collage over at COVID-19 pandemic in Canada because the maps were always out of date. Use that as inspiration? CaffeinAddict (talk) 17:28, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

That is a great idea. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 16:54, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

I started a template with 6 images, I've only filled in 1 in my sandbox - feel free to edit it. CaffeinAddict (talk) 18:56, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Looking good so far, though there are still more photos that need to be added, including those outside Toronto. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:11, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Filled it in. CaffeinAddict (talk) 03:05, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Excellent choices for the collage, CaffeinAddict! Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 01:38, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Vaccination progress graph got reverted to out-of-date version

I don't know how such a thing happened, but the vaccination progress graph roughly halfway down the page has apparently been reverted to an older version. Yesterday it was showing about 20% still unvaccinated, but today that has jumped up to 30%. Unless people can be de-vaccinated somehow, such a change is clearly erroneous.

I'd find and revert the erroneous edit myself, but the page is semi-protected ... also, the best I could do is restore yesterday's graph. I don't know where the numbers are coming from to make it accurate to today, and don't have the time to engage in extensive research all to fix somebody else's booboo. So, it would remain out of date by a day.70.52.145.24 (talk) 17:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Probably people getting confused about the metric. The government often uses eligible (12+) or adult (18+) vs total population to make vaccination progress look better than it is. We use total population to give an actual look at how many people are actually vaccinated. CaffeinAddict (talk) 18:13, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

The Wikipedia graph yesterday showed fewer vaccinated people than the Wikipedia graph the day before yesterday showed. It was an apples-to-apples comparison. 70.52.145.24 (talk) 18:14, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

'COVID-19 cases in Ontario, Canada' chart not updating since Aug 31?

The New Cases, Confirmed Deaths, and Active Cases charts in the Statistics section are up-to-date but the most recent entry displayed in the cumulative cases and deaths chart toward the top of the article is from Aug 31. This also seems to be where Google pulls data from for its graph as that has likewise not updated since Aug 31. Apologies if this is not the right place to flag this problem but the page is understandably locked and I don't have an account. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.0.195.185 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

TCT101 you seem to be responsible for the daily updates, are you able to fix this chart issue?

This is my fault, I was on holiday. Of course, other people are welcome to edit the chart as well!-- Earl Andrew - talk 02:45, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

No problem. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 01:07, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Just want to flag that this chart is not updating again, last update Nov 30. Not sure if Earl Andrew is on holiday but since cases are rising and google pulls its data from this chart, could someone else edit it in the meantime? Johnny Au? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.0.195.185 (talk • contribs) 06:06, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

It's being updated once again, albeit slowly. Some Wikipedians can get busy. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:51, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Request to create the COVID-19 pandemic in the Regional Municipality of York article

I propose that an article for COVID-19 pandemic in the Regional Municipality of York be created, given that there's already articles for Toronto, Peel Region, and Ottawa. The proposed article would include case and death statistics from York Region, as well as the measures to contain the disease. The article can mention York Region Transit and how it deals with the pandemic, as well as how Canada's Wonderland deals with the pandemic, given that Canada's Wonderland is one of the top attractions in York Region. As a bonus, Commons already has plenty of photos taken in York Region that deal with the pandemic. Johnny Au _{(talk/contributions)} 00:15, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

I am already working on a draft right here. Draft:COVID-19 pandemic in the Regional Municipality of York. Feel free to contribute or even move it to the article space. 747pilot (talk) 18:31, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

@747pilot: It's a great first step. The major tourist sites of York Region, such as Vaughan Mills, Canada's Wonderland, and Pacific Mall, should be mentioned as well. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:07, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

@Johnny Au: I've now moved the page to article space. 747pilot (talk) 19:30, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

That is great. Thank you so much! Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 02:09, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Case numbers

Well - considering there is no way of knowing how many actual cases there are in Ontario and free PCR testing will be eliminated for the most part going forward - what should we do? CaffeinAddict (talk) 04:39, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

I think we should still post the official case numbers given on the page. I feel that we should make a note in the section about limited tests affecting the count too. 747pilot (talk) 18:30, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

That would be great. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:06, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Split Vaccination Section

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was to split. Wgullyn (talk) 13:44, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

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Hi, should we split out the vaccination section of the article into COVID-19 vaccination in Ontario? This page is getting pretty long and there exists an equivalent page for Quebec (COVID-19 vaccination in Quebec) already. Draconicfire (talk) 16:35, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea to do this as the article is a bit long. 747pilot (talk) 16:41, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Yeah - why not? There's a lot of nuances as to how poorly done the Ontario vaccine rollout is too ;) CaffeinAddict (talk) 03:29, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

I concur with the article split. The current article is too long and there are more than plenty to discuss. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 14:53, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that's a good idea. The article right now is getting pretty long and the vaccination section should have a separate article. Wgullyn (talk) 22:01, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The new article is looking good. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:24, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

No updates for over a month

None of the Ontario COVID pages seems to have been updated in over a month. This includes numbers and graphs on both this article and the vaccination status one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.251.70 (talk) 21:36, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

I agree. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:21, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Well? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.251.70 (talk) 03:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Let me ping CaffeinAddict. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 12:39, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I dunno the pandemic is largely over (due to public apathy). I'm triple vaccinated and have recovered from COVID-19. We've all moved on. Perhaps Wikipedia:WikiProject COVID-19 has some insight as to what most of these COVID-19 articles should be and how they exist in the future. I'll look into some standards and practices. CaffeinAddict (talk) 17:45, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Agreed (I'm triple-vaccinated by the way). Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:27, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Tell that to the 3000 or so people who died from it today, 1% of whom were in Ontario. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.251.70 (talk) 02:23, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Let me ping TCT101 who updates the count numbers and graphs, as well as Earl Andrew. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:33, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Hey guess what, 70.51.251.70, you are free to update the numbers as well. Some of us have COVID fatigue, and so I think it's time for some fresh blood on this. You seem to be passionate about the numbers, so I think you'd make a great candidate to do the updates from now on. -- Earl Andrew - talk 15:40, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Well, actually, I'm not. For starters, the page is semi-protected. And, I don't have the numbers in question -- I come *here* for that sort of information. If you're going to suggest I figure out how and go directly to the source, and, symmetrically (else you would be applying a double standard), that everyone else in the same situation should do likewise, then why have a Wikipedia page at all? The whole point is that one person goes to suss out all these numbers from wherever they come from and then everyone else can get it here with much less effort, so your suggestion is either putting the cart before the horse, or else you wish to apply a double standard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.52.144.133 (talk) 20:11, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Given that the page is semi-protected, I would recommend that you create an account. Click here to learn about the benefits of having an account. Upon having at least ten edits over four days, you can edit the article yourself. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:15, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Or, maybe, you know, someone else could do it who a) wouldn't have to jump through all those hoops and b) is closer to the source of all these numbers than I am? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.52.145.49 (talk) 00:00, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Let me ping 747pilot who updated the charts with Earl Andrew. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:16, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Well, that clearly didn't work. Now what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.52.145.49 (talk • contribs) 17:23, May 3, 2022 (UTC)

As others have said, many of us have COVID fatigue. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Remember, there are no deadlines. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:19, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Ordinarily, I would agree with you. But this article deals with an ongoing situation of considerable importance to roughly 14 million people. It would be nice to see if the numbers have been trending up or down lately, if we seem to be entering a new wave or have just put one behind us, etc.; not just for curiosity's sake but to inform decisions regarding whether to do some things now or postpone them until it might be safer to do them. Other sites with COVID data mostly lack that sort of perspective, giving just some information about the last day or so; or require you to compromise your machine's security just to view their data; or both. There's also the matter of trustworthiness: only two sites are likely to be trustworthy, the official health agency reporting ones (which do not show long term trend information) and Wikipedia. So there's only one that's both authoritative and has long term trend information -- and you're it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.52.145.49 (talk • contribs) 17:23, May 3, 2022 (UTC)

Note that Wikipedia gets its data from official health agencies. Data aren't added without reliable sources. You can ask Earl Andrew on how to help here, seeing how enthusiastic you are about having long-term data. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:39, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2022

Please add 2022 monkeypox outbreak in Canada in see also. 2607:FEA8:2A80:DF00:9434:6975:DD08:1AEE (talk) 00:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Added the link in the See Also section of COVID-19 pandemic in Canada instead as it's more relevant there. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 15:04, 26 June 2022 (UTC)