Talk:Bertrand Barère

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Article structure

Before my recent changes this article read like a combination of sources interwoven layer by layer, and ended up with several events described twice or out of order. I've sorted out the chronology and simplified the many references. Some problems remain: the time from 1795 to 1830 is unclear, the escapes from prison etc. Also some of the references to events of the Revolution seem mangled. Someone with better knowledge of those times will have to work on it. David Brooks (talk) 04:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Grandfather

I've removed "His grandfather, Bertrand Barère, was a priest, doctor of theology, and vicar." which seems odd in Ancien regime France (and Huguenot ministers aren't "priests"). The French article says his grandfather, like his father, was a "procureur" (type of lawyer). Johnbod (talk) 10:40, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions

After reviewing the article, I noticed that not much insight on the relations of Barère and other influential individuals is mentioned. Providing more information on the interactions with other individuals allows the reader to grasp a bigger picture. Also, under the section "With the Girondists and The Mountain," an unfinished quote is mentioned. The quote that reads “the tree of liberty grows only when watered by the blood of tyrants" is missing "and martyrs." By including these missing words, the reader will understand that Barere was a firm believer in the idea that, to gain freedom, one must not only bring down those who seek to establish pure control over others, but also be willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater good. The full quote can be found in the work Imperial republics: revolution, war, and territorial expansion from the English Civil War to the French Revolution. Below is a list of sources where useful information can be gathered from to improve the article.

Bibliography

Andrew, E. (2011). Imperial republics: revolution, war, and territorial expansion from the English Civil War to the French Revolution. Toronto: University of Toronto Press.

Barère, B. (1896). Memoirs of Bertrand Barère: chairman of the Committee of Public Safety during the Revolution. London: H.S. Nichols.

Gershoy, L. (1962). Bertrand Barere: a reluctant terrorist. Princeton, N.J., Princeton University Press.

Bridginator (talk) 04:03, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hand-carved footnotes

In this revision, Bridginator hand-carved some references. Clearly their referents have changed over time, and some no longer exist. I tried to change them to named refs, but I couldn't put together enough breadcrumbs to reverse-engineer them. Bridginator (then a student) seems to be no longer active; perhaps someone with access to the source material can try? David Brooks (talk) 21:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]