Talk:At the Mountains of Madness
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Present vs. past tense
[edit]Wikipedia's preference is for summaries of fictional work to be presented in the present tense. See Wikipedia:Guide_to_writing_better_articles#Check_your_fiction. The fact that the work is presented in the form of a character looking back on events would not seem to be an exception--that's a fairly standard fictional form. Nareek 21:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
this is a good article
[edit]I was a expecting just a 10,000 word plot summary, nice work on this, someone.P4k (talk) 04:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
- are you sure? if all of this knowledge gets out, it could call down the wrath of the Elder Spawn!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.15.55.127 (talk) 18:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Real Life Expedition?
[edit]A shot in the dark here, but this seems too interesting to not pass on. Is there any way to put in something about this? [1] Phrenology (talk) 17:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Joshi this, Joshi that
[edit]It is really hard to read this article, because it sounds like a television ad for Joshi. Joshi stated, but Joshi said and Joshi wrote. Isn't it enough to use citations? 81.182.236.182 (talk) 00:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
- I agree heavily with this, and am probably gonna start editing out some of the Joshi mentions for style. I will leave the ones that directly note controversy, for the purpose is to note who said what when there is a disagreement. But when no other scholar has noted otherwise, we don't need to keep saying the guys name.--Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 23:32, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
- To be honest, the amount of Joshi quotes in this section could be considered a copyright violation!--Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 23:45, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Whisperer in the Dark
[edit]Isn't the proffessor from "The Whisperer in the Dark" mentioned in this? It's been a while since of read it, but if so, it ought be included under the section on connections to his other works. Phoenix1177 (talk) 05:50, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- "...Also like prehistoric folklore things Wilmarth has spoken of..."
- "At the moment I felt sorry that I had ever read the abhorred Necronomicon, or talked so much with that unpleasantly erudite folklorist Wilmarth at the university."
- Those are the two times he's mentioned. Frankly, given Lovecraft's style of rapid-fire name dropping, I'd be reluctant to list every connection. It's a story in his Arkham cycle; it has connections to every other story in that cycle. Elmo iscariot (talk) 20:04, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Sequel/Hive
[edit]Added this section as it had not perviously been mention. Tried to be as brief as possible but get to the basic points about it. I realize it was kind of a crappy book but it does deserve some mention.--76.91.138.163 (talk) 05:43, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
This should be sequels as many have been written 178.30.26.20 (talk) 11:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Film adaptation cancelled?
[edit]http://collider.com/guillermo-del-toro-pacific-rim/79355/
Can anyone get this confirmed from a few other sources? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.182.241.88 (talk) 00:26, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Significanse
[edit]"Practicing occultist and co-author of The Necronomicon Files John William Gonce III asserts that Lovecraft "never divorced magic from his fiction; he simply married it to science." Gonce says Lovecraft continued to use occult plot devices in his stories until the end of his life.[1]" This seems to be out of place and have no connection to the novel, so I will remove it. It might be a valid point for all i know, and there might be a wiki-page for it. But why here? Ttias (talk) 12:59, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
References
- ^ Gonce, John William, and Harms, Daniel. The Necronomicon Files: The Truth Behind the Legend. 2003 edition, p.97
prevent the Expedition to return
[edit]"which the narrator describes in the hope of deterring another planned expedition to return to the continent" The part that is stylistically awkward is that Dyer is describing the secrets in the hope of deterring (antecedent) to return to the content. What is he attempting to deter? Normally you deter X from continuing, etc. I'm gonna try and reword it further to sound more elegant.--Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 23:15, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
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<<This article appears to contain trivial, minor, or unrelated references to popular culture. Please reorganize this content to explain the subject's impact on popular culture, using references to reliable sources, rather than simply listing appearances. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (April 2018)>>
You have got to be fucking kidding, right? This is H.P.Lovecraft and part of the Cthulhu mythology. It would be difficult to imagine anything less trivial, in relation to popular culture. https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Talk:At_the_Mountains_of_Madness&action=edit§ion=11
Perhaps the cover is public domain
[edit]The cover image we use in this article is currently marked as fair use. However, we link to the wikisource of this story which claims it's public domain. If the story's copyright was never renewed, it seems likely that the cover was never renewed and is thus public domain. Dingolover6969 (talk) 14:12, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Musical adaption/use
[edit]At the end of the third paragraph, it says that: "The story has been adapted and used for graphic novels, video games, and musical works." But I can't find any reference about musical adaption nor any information about it later in the page. Does anyone have information about musical adaption, if not, should the reference to music be removed from the page? Mittem (talk) 18:33, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- I added the reference to a musical adaption (The Mountains of Madness). Mittem (talk) 08:25, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Possible influence of a story by Douglas Mawson?
[edit]A short story by Douglas Mawson in a book titled Aurora Australis. Aurora Australis/Bathybia - Wikisource, the free online library - Wikipedia its preserved here in Wikisource. Apologies I am struggling to create a live link.
Mawson's expedition finds an abyss beneath the Antarctic ice, featuring archaic life forms of unusual size, and a warm body of water. A frozen "water bear" of human size is discovered and returned to camp for dissection, but it thaws, returns to life and attacks expedition members...but it was all a dream.
This might well be the inspiration for much of the action in AtMoM. 202.137.76.75 (talk) 21:37, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- It might well be, but without a reliable source having discussed it, it would be original research for us to add it to the article. DonIago (talk) 03:32, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the explanation. I know how to proceed. 14.201.236.215 (talk) 00:17, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
"Inspiration section" - include Roerich art?
[edit]As the paintings of Nicholas Roerich are heavily referenced throughout the story, and is mentioned in the wiki article itself, would it be appropriate to include one of his paintings of this era in the section? A large number of his paintings are already in the wikimedia archives under CC BY-SA 4.0 license, so inclusion shouldn't be a licensing issue at least, but it would maybe be particularly useful if there are any mentions out there of what specific paintings Lovecraft had seen. The painting "Tibet, Himalayas" is very close to Lovecraft's description, but it appears to have been painted two years after At the Mountains of Madness was published. Fisk0 (talk) 01:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't recommend it at this time. There's barely any mention of Roerich at this time, and neither mention included any evidence that sources have discussed it. If and when that can be rectified, I'd be more comfortable revisiting this question. For now, I've tagged the part of the article that mentions Roerich for needing a source. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 03:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- The paintings of Nicholas Roerich are explicitly mentioned in the story, the tenth paragraph of the first chapter contains this line:
- Something about the scene reminded me of the strange and disturbing Asian paintings of Nicholas Roerich, and of the still stranger and more disturbing descriptions of the evilly fabled plateau of Leng which occur in the dreaded Necronomicon of the mad Arab Abdul Alhazred. I was rather sorry, later on, that I had ever looked into that monstrous book at the college library.[2]https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/mm.aspx Fisk0 (talk) 19:13, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- You didn't really address my concern as to whether any sources have discussed the mention of Roerich. DonIago (talk) 19:34, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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