Talk:Astrid Strauss

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Requested move

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Support. Anthony Appleyard 21:44, 25 October 2007 (UTC) Astrid Strauß → Astrid Strauss[reply]

I think this page should be moved to Astrid Strauss. The only listed rationale for having it at Astrid Strauß is because of one English language usage [1]

However, a survey of English language sources indicates an overwhelming preference for the standard transliteration Strauss rather than Strauß. Notables include:

I think the evidence is overwhelming that this person's correct name in English is Strauss Erudy 14:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

Support per nom and WP:NC(UE). older ≠ wiser 15:33, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support Do as English does. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support ß should never appear in an English Wikipedia title. 132.205.99.122 18:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Few English speakers even know what ß represents, so it can hardly be claimed to fit WP:UE. Andrewa 07:27, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The current title fits WP:UE because the spelling Astrid Strauß has been shown to be used in English. On Wikipedia, if two spellings of a non-English name are used in English and one of them is identical to the spelling used in the original language, the article normally uses the original spelling even if that spelling is less common in English. That's why our article on Slobodan Milošević uses that spelling even though the spelling Slobodan Milosevic is more common in English. Timeineurope 14:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I can't find the description of that (use less common English spelling) policy in WP:UE; evidence that Astrid Strauß is used in English is extemely narrow, especially when compared to massive evidence of Astrid Strauss; and the case of Milosevic [2] was decided on different grounds than you suggest: using š and ć was argued to be of essentially "no cost" because they were immediately identifiable as s and c. The letter ß is not similiarly cheap, because it is not immediately idenifiable as ss. (I personally disagree with the Milosevic case, but no matter) Erudy 21:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - I never said it was part of WP:UE, I was only describing how things are normally done on Wikipedia. Timeineurope 10:02, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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