Talk:Soviet hospital ship Armenia

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This article claims "In 2005, an Australian company GeoResonance claimed to have located the hulk of the Armenia at a depth of 520m." However, I am not sure that is quite true. The citation refers to the Georesonance page which does, indeed, claim that they found the ship in 2005. However, I see nothing to indicate that they actually made this claim as far back as 2005. Checking the wayback machine shows that this web page changed significantly in early 2014. This happened sometime between January 4th 2014 and April 30th 2014. Before that, the website was "Geo-Resonance Rejuvenation ©An Innovation in Holistic Healing". More accurately, we could say, "In 2014, Georesonance claimed to have found this ship back in 2005, however this has not been confirmed." Or something like that. I have yet to see any reliable source to confirm that they were evening making this claim before 2014, much less that they actually found the ship. If someone has a source saying otherwise, please share. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.91.184.189 (talk) 15:32, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"In any event, Hague Convention norms regarding the status of medical facilities were often ignored in the bitter conflict between Germany and the Soviet Union" - the newly-formed Soviet Union after the revolution in 1917-1922 rescinded all treaties and conventions signed by the preceding Czarist regime. This meant that they were no longer signatories of either the Hague Convention, nor the relevant Geneva Conventions, so technically neither they, nor their agents were entitled to the protection implied by the conventions, nor were they obliged to offer reciprocal protection to their enemies.

In addition, hospital ships are required to be clearly marked as-such, and to be unarmed.

The Hague Convention requires genuine hospital ships to be painted white overall - to make their presence and purpose obvious to both sides - and to bear prominent red crosses. They are also required to be completely unarmed so they cannot be used for military purposes. Hospital ships are also required to be brightly lit at night.

Painting a large ship completely white takes a considerable time, thus making it difficult for unscrupulous combatants to sneakily use the hospital ship status for quickly and temporarily protecting ships actually being used for warlike purposes. That is why a hospital ship has to be completely (or almost completely, i.e., hull and upperworks) white. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.150.18.150 (talk) 10:34, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Were any Germans prosecuted for the sinking of the Armenia?

Was the sinking of the Armenia brought up at any of the post-war war crimes trials? 2603:800C:3944:BC00:E5D6:FA16:40C9:49F (talk) 07:23, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]