Talk:Amet-khan Sultan

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Myths and facts

The official report on the plane crash that killed Amet-khan Sultan is still classified. Some very questionable journalists looking for clicks have made up completely fake quotes from fake "accident reports" in these examples which should never be used in the article:
- http://www.v3let.ru/tvorchestvo/4-2009-10-15-18-19-01/596-amet-xan.html
- http://xn--b1axbhcea.xn--p1ai/articles/538/8755
Amet-khan Sultan was NOT an honorary citizen of Yaroslavl, that is a myth formerly perpetrated by the Russian version of his Wikipedia article.
It does not seem like he committed a second aerial ramming (over Stalingrad in the winter). This was claimed by Tomas Polak, who has made a swath of false claims, including that Lidya Litvyak was only awarded the order of the Red Banner while alive and that Amet-khan was born in 1925 (he was actually born in 1920).
There are no reliable sources for the alleged duel with the 100-kill German ace (allegedly a 100-kill ace dropped a leaflet on his airfield chellenging him to a duel, and allegedly he shot him down, which led to the German taking off his iron cross and throwing it at amet-khan; however, such incident mentioned in literature is not recorded in Russian or German documents, and Amet-khan was not credited with an aerial victory for when the alleged event occured)
It is not clear if Amet-khan and Ivan Borisov forced a reconnaissance plane to land at a soviet airfeild (followed by amet-khan test-flying it). The incident is not mentioned in his award nominations or regiment documents, BUT the regimental commander Kovachevich did recall the incident.
Russian tradition is that children inherit the ethnicity of their father - something that has long been used by propaganda to de-tatarize Amet-khan. BUT Amet-khan was not ethnically Russian and did not follow this practice; he did not even take his (Lak) paternal grandfather's surname, opting instead to write his name according to Crimean Tatar custom. Tatarophobes can pretend that Amet-khan wasn't Crimean Tatar because of the paternity rule, but by all sane standards Amet-khan is Crimean Tatar. He grew up in Crimea, born to a Crimean Tatar mother, spoke Crimean Tatar in addition to Russian, and took a Tatar name. He never had a Dagestan residence permit and could not understand (much less speak) a single Dagestani language.

--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 21:52, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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What's up with the a He 113 being listed among his kills?

The HE 113 is a fictional fighter made up by German propaganda, although allied air forces fell for it and proceeded to misidentify some German aircraft as HE 113s

It should either be removed and replaced with a HE 100 or a note should be added indicating that this kill is a misedentification of another aircraft as a HE 113 D1d2d3d29 (talk) 18:24, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]