Talk:Munich-Allach concentration camp
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Please give me some time.. like a couple of minutes!!! I am trying to gather the informations and photos. I am using other sub camps as templates, but it will take a few moments to get things here. I am new to this
- If you can create an valid article here, that's fine. But per Wikipedia guidelines, we don't create placeholder articles to hold a spot until a real article is created. In addition, I question whether you even need an article here instead of simply a redirect. The subcamps listed at List of subcamps of Dachau don't have their own articles, with all the subcamp links there being to town and municipality articles. But if you can make a good article here, go for it. --Alabamaboy (talk) 15:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I had hoped I would be able to do this subject justice, but I am not sure I can. So I would not mind a redirect if there is one that is more appropriate than the Allach porcelain that the link at List of subcamps of Dachau was previously linked to. That link specifically stated that slave laborers from the camps were not used there. So if that is true then the Concentration camp of Allach was not really linked to Allach Porcelain factory.
Right now there is no page for town of Allach Germany as far as I could tell.
If there is no alternative page to be redirected to, please let me slowly build this page (as soon as the kids go back to school) I am doing research on Allach for my father who was a prisoner there from the summer of 1944- liberation in May 45. There is not much info on the internet and I have requested more info from various museums including from Dachau itself. Right now there is only info on the liberation which I will try to post this week.
I hope you had a good new year, and look forward to your suggestion on how to proccede. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JudithSara (talk • contribs) 01:16, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'd still suggest a redirect to the main Dachau article, but we'll give this more time to see what you can pull together.--Alabamaboy (talk) 21:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
But thats the thing, the only link for Allach concentration camp is on the main Dachau page and it used to link to Allach porcelain. Is it better to have no link? The kids are going back to school this week (yeah!) I also hope to hear from Dachau with more information. As soon as it comes I will have enough documented facts to write an article. I have a question about sources. Right now the only other source for information that I found on the web is a testimonial from another survivor of the camp. It was nice to hear another person basically tell the same story, just from another point of view. Both men talk of the pardon that the commander of the camp, Busch, received when the prisoners who were left in the camp(Specifically my Grandfather) recommended it to the American soldiers, because he was a good man. Is this consider a reliable source? Again I think this was an unusual fact, something that never gets reported. But aside from these two reports I have no other sources. Is this OK to quote? As I said I really dont feel I am best to write this, but I hope you dont mind if I continue to ask stupid question :) thank you again :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by JudithSara (talk • contribs) 23:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Allright, I hope I am making headway... any feedback is appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JudithSara (talk • contribs) 00:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Allach concentration camp
[edit]You can use this source page 516-517 for an article, or you may look at the german Wikipedia, article KZ-Außenlager München-Allach. This subcamp provided slave labour only for nearby factories of BMW, Dyckerhoff, Sager & Woerner, Kirsch Sägemühle, Pumpel Lochhausen and Organisation Todt.
Please take note, that the Allach (porcelain) a.k.a. Porzellan Manufaktur Allach was a completly different subcamp - for this, there's a separate article Allach (porcelain). I moved the deleted content from this article to there, to ″Talk″.
Zegenhagen, Evelyn (2009). Encyclopedia of camps and ghettos, 1933 - 1945 / 1,A: Early camps, youth camps, and concentration camps and subcamps under the SS-Business Administration Main Office (WVHA), page 516–517. Bloomington: Indiana Univ. Press. ISBN 978-0-253-35328-3.
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