Talk:Alejandro Malaspina

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Vancouver Island and Puget Sound

This page claims: "In addition to making the first European circumnavigation of Vancouver Island and exploring Puget Sound, the expedition ..."

According to the book Historical Atlas of the Pacific Northwest: Maps of exploration and Discovery by Derek Hayes, it was Dionisio Alcalá Galiano and crew who first circumnavigated Vancouver Island. Also, the Spanish never explored Puget Sound, according to this book and other sources I've read. Spanish maps included Puget Sound thanks to collaboration with George Vancouver, is my understanding. Is that right? Pfly 07:14, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it depends on who was writing the history. In 1789, Dionisio Alcalá Galiano was sent to America with the Malaspina expedition. Galiano had better press later in his life and did not have the same political difficulties that Malaspina faced. It would be good refer to Galiano in the article however. WBardwin 01:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The book mentioned (which I'm not sure is a definitive source or not) does describe the Malaspina expedition, with Galiano and Valdes as officers, reaching far north to the coast of Alaska in 1791, then stopping at Nootka Sound for a while, where more exploration and charting was done (apparently mainly of the Nootka Sound area itself). The book goes on to describe another exploration voyage from San Blas, Mexico, to the Pacific Northwest, in 1792. Of this voyage the text says "It was originally intended to have been commanded by Francisco Antonio Mourelle, who had first been to the northwest coast in 1775 with Bodega y Quadra, but he became ill and so command was given to two of Malaspina's officers, Dionisio Alcalá Galiano and Cayetano Valdes." It goes on to describe their voyage in some detail, their meeting with George Vancouver and collaboration on circumnavigating Vancouver Island (with Vancouver not quite qualifying as one of the first to circumnavigate since he hadn't sailed the bit of coast between Nootka and Juan de Fuca). But in any case, I'm only just learning about these Spanish expeditions, and this book is probably not the ideal source. Mainly I'm just trying to learn. To that end, I suppose my point is that a citation on Malaspina's circumnavigation and Puget Sound exploration would be useful. Pfly 04:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Break out Expedition Section?

The expedition section is becoming more detailed. Is it time to consider a Expedition article? Title: Malaspina Expedition (1789-1794)? What would be a more distinctive title? WBardwin (talk) 03:24, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense to me. Perhaps Malaspina expedition, akin to Vancouver Expedition. Check out Category:Scientific expeditions. Lots of example titles there. I don't think the years are needed--Malaspina is remembered for his 1789-1794 voyage far more than any other, right? Not sure whether the word "expedition" should have a capital E or lowercase. I've often seen it referred to as "the Malaspina Expedition"--a proper name, like the Lewis and Clark Expedition. The names in category Scientific expeditions seem fairly mixed between capital and lowercase E. Pfly (talk) 06:01, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It may be a good idea. The article needs a lot more work done on it (as does the one on Vancouver) and there is now a lot of source material to draw upon. Camira (talk) 22:57, 8 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camira (talk • contribs) 22:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I think the Expedition deserves to have its own article, and Malaspina Expedition (with capital "E" as it is written in other languages) seems like the right title.

If no one raises any objections I will proceed to create the page in a few days time (during the weekend, probably).

--RafaelMinuesa (talk) 04:19, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Name change Suggestion

In English references he is known overwhelmingly as Alejandro Malaspina, not Allesandro. Per Wikipedia:Article titles, "the term or name most typically used in reliable sources is generally preferred." I propose to change this article name. Glendoremus (talk) 03:34, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]