Talk:Uprising of Dervish Cara

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A fact from Uprising of Dervish Cara appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 September 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Ottoman replacement of Albanian-speaking pashas in 1844 led to a rebellion?

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The famous song of Hajredin Pasha

Belongs to this article. Aigest (talk) 10:37, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dates

OK, I am a little puzzled here. This is the "Revolt of 1844", but the infobox includes a date range from 1839 to 1847, and in the text, it says that the revolt started in July 1843. So either way, the title is wrong. Can someone please enlighten me why it is called that way? Constantine ✍ 23:40, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It should be Albanian Revolts of 1843-1844. I don't agree with Vinie007's edit [1] that involves a minor upheaval in 1839, which is part of the background. Rather than moving the page though I'll ask Aigest's opinion. --Sulmues ^(talk) 01:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is some ambiguity among historians, about the naming of this revolt. It actually initiated in 1843, but its main actions took place in 1844. Some use the name 1843 revolt(mainly 19th century books), some 1843-1844 revolt, some only 1844 revolt and some others simply refer as Dervish Cara revolt (although this last title also has some issues, since other actions outside its control and leadership, like the case of Dibër and Shkodër). We can change it to 1843-44 revolt if you think that title is more descriptive. Aigest (talk) 07:54, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, what is the name that is used in bibliography? That form should be preferred. Otherwise, indeed, a correct descriptive name should be in order, plus some fixes in the infobox. Constantine ✍ 16:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is no common name, more generally it is mentioned as a revolt of 1844 (1) (2) or some times as Dervish Cara revolt (both titles have issues. The more exact descriptive form would be that of The Albanian revolt of 1843-44. Aigest (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All right then, Albanian Revolt of 1843–1844 it is, unless there are any objections. Constantine ✍ 23:46, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fine by me. Aigest (talk) 07:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Names

To Antidiskriminator

Leave the names as Albanian names. This is an article about the Albanian revolts, and so the city names should be in Albanian. I reviewed the original article, and the names were all spelt in Albanian. You have no reason to change them to Serbian names. You say you don't want to edit war - then stop changing my edits. --- iRi. Dirifer (talk) 11:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is English language wikipedia. On this wikipedia placenames are referred to per their English language common names (wp:commonname). Not Albanian language names. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:49, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are not English common names. They are Serbian common names. ---iRi. Dirifer (talk) 12:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are English common names. If you believe they are not, please start move discussion before changing them to Albanian language names. Regarding the flag, please see this comment.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:55, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That case is different. This is a rebellion. Dirifer (talk) 17:08, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]