Talk:Alan Feinstein
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Almost all of the text in this bio was copied from two sources: the March 2004 article in The Providence Journal and the Feinstein Institute page on the Roger Williams University School of Law website. It needs serious copyediting. — Athaenara ✉ 05:46, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
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[edit]This currently reads like an ad. No proper claim for notability is cited. His own web page is cited. Collect (talk) 11:52, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- I share Collect's concerns about the article; I'm not convinced that the person is notable...the establishment of a charity and the talks at schools might give some notability (but it depends on how notable the charity itself is—I don't know a lot about how charities work—just as someone can be notable for being the lead singer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers but not for being the lead-singer of his friends' garage band), but the rest of the article gives me the impression that he's just a guy with a lot of money (and his coverage in the NYT about buying the contract, IMO, is kind of WP:ONEEVENTy).
- But Alansohn is a very experienced article creator/improver, so I would give this at least two or three days to see what he can do with it before I think about doing anything drastic. I think the establishment of charities and the awards he's gotten can probably establish notability if we get enough information on that stuff, so it might mostly be a matter of ensuring that the tone of the article is appropriate. Politizer talk/contribs 13:15, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. At this point, at least I added cites for his stamp "promotion." I dounbt his notability -- a man who gave $100 million on the spur of the moment to MIT gets one paragraph, and he has a genuine c.v. ten times Feinstein's, and this man is made to be Mother Theresa <g>. Near as I can figure, he tried to get Brown to come down $2 million on the price of naming a building after him (his net donation ended at $7,000) and getting several school districts to name schools after him for $1 million (which he furnishes by using "donations" sent to his foundation <g>). Oh what Madoff's article would look like if he had such friendly editors <veg>. Further details if asked for by email ... Collect (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- The article, as it existed was awful, but it does make a number of claims of notability surrounded by a tremendous amount of puffery. I have restructured and reworded portions of the article. I have added a few sources, but I agree with Politizer's assessment that none of them are drop-dead affirmations of his notability. There is a mention above of a newspaper profile, but I have been unable to find one where the entire text is available that covers him and his background, but I will search further. Alansohn (talk) 13:23, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. At this point, at least I added cites for his stamp "promotion." I dounbt his notability -- a man who gave $100 million on the spur of the moment to MIT gets one paragraph, and he has a genuine c.v. ten times Feinstein's, and this man is made to be Mother Theresa <g>. Near as I can figure, he tried to get Brown to come down $2 million on the price of naming a building after him (his net donation ended at $7,000) and getting several school districts to name schools after him for $1 million (which he furnishes by using "donations" sent to his foundation <g>). Oh what Madoff's article would look like if he had such friendly editors <veg>. Further details if asked for by email ... Collect (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
- One view would be that he made money through slightly inaccurate sales of "collectibles", and now is leveraging a not-very-large pool of money into getting himself a slew of brass plaques. Many of his "grants" are "matching grants" and require "permanent naming" of facilities after him. His c.v. otherwise is quite un-notable indeed, and his "books" are also un-notable ... see reviews <g> for his "Four Treasures" (apparently no sales reported?) on amazon.com [1] noting especially the wording of the "rave review." <g> Then "How to mMake Money" ranked barely in the top 5 MILLION books (26 pages -- but a "book"? ) ... "I Can Make a Difference" no sales. Other books do not even hit Amazon as having ever been sold (no ranking at all). Found 1 copy of "Triumph" on ABE - vanity publisher. So using "writer" for notability fails quite quickly. We are left with a promoter who leverages quite modest donations for all they are worth to get to be known as "philanthropist." Collect (talk) 14:06, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
An IP ran through deleting all the sourced material -- if this is iterated, the prod tag should be restored (sigh) Collect (talk) 22:15, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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I believe the date for the start of the IMAX agreement is wrong. It is not 2003, but around 2000. ??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.106.242.150 (talk) 05:38, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
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This article is quite biased. People have tried to correct this by pointing out that Mr. Feinstein made his money selling collectibles of questionable value, and that he is a publicity hound, but someone seems to come along and remove those edits. I think it should include that information and be rewritten to be balanced, and then frozen. See The Providence Journal expose at http://www.projo.com/news/content/projo_20040321_asf21.25b49b.html for more information. |
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