Talk:Advanced electronic signature

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	This article was accepted from this draft on 21 May 2016 by reviewer LaMona (talk · contribs).

Not same as handwritten signature

This line is not accurate: "By adding a certificate that has been issued by a qualified trust service provider that attests to the authenticity of the qualified signature, the upgraded advanced signature then carries according to Article 24 (2) of the eIDAS Regulation[3] the same legal value as a handwritten signature" - WRONG!

According to eIDAS: ‘qualified electronic signature’ means an advanced electronic signature that is created by a qualified electronic signature creation device, and which is based on a qualified certificate for electronic signatures; AND ONLY A qualified electronic signature shall have the equivalent legal effect of a handwritten signature. (Article 25)

Therefore "qualified certificate " is one of the conditions for the ‘qualified electronic signature’ , but it is not enough. qualified electronic signature creation device is necessary.

So if I have a qualified certificate generated and stored on my laptop and use it to create a signature, that is an advanced electronic signature based on the qualified certificate for electronic signatures. If I have a qualified certificate generated and stored on smart card or. safe cloud system, and use it to create a signature, only then that is qualified electronic signature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitjad (talk • contribs) 08:06, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Legal effect

The current text of the article section "Legal implications" are not very good. It basically offers a direct quote of the eIDAS, which is by itself very ambiguous. This would be nice to expand except I doubt there were any legal examples to start from.

The rest of the section starts talking about a completely different thing: Qualified signatures, possibly seriously confusing the reader. Also starts talking about "certificate" (while so far it was all about "signatures"), so the reader may think about AdES (signature) somehow certified by some certification, but still not being QES? But the legal effects are all about QES, not AdES.

The main problem of course that likely nobody understands what AdES is good for within the legal framework. --grin ✎ 19:12, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]