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Widely regarded as one of the greatest films?

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/few_good_men — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:72B0:F600:69D3:225F:1D55:A3 (talk) 01:14, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Editing the plot

I think all but a couple of partial quotes should be expunged, keeping "can't handle the truth" and possibly the denouement between Kaffee and Jessup. If no one attempts this by month's end, I will prepare a severely edited synopsis and evaluation of the plot, which is lacking here: Dawson's final realization (inspired by Kaffee's courage in the defense?) and the three views of the trial presented by Weinberg, Kaffee, and Galloway. (Her comment to Downey that he could go back to service seems either naive or cruelly reassuring considering his admitted assault on Santiago.) DFoofnik 3/9/09 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.230.234.181 (talk) 19:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The plot needs to be cut in half, to start. Yeesh. Crotchety Old Man (talk) 19:55, 18 May 2009 (UTC) the saying[reply]

It's now within a whisker of the recommended maximum. I haven't seen the film in ages though, so someone else needs to do the last nudge.Archiewood (talk) 03:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The criticism part needs a citation or two. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.125.152.235 (talk) 11:56, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the plot introduction, Cuba Gooding, Jr. is listed as a part of the cast of the movie. That is factually incorrect. Grey Maverick (talk) 18:18, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The last sentence in the 6th paragraph of the Plot section could end as "...but is arrested by the Military Police." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.244.210.117 (talk) 09:26, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Premise

A lawyer in South Eastern Virginia has claimed on his website, and on Television Commercials that his story was told in the Movie a Few Good Men. As such I am not sure if it should be added to Wikipedia or not. "http://www.donmarcari.com/marcari.php#marcari" That is the link to his firms webpage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.254.247.60 (talk) 16:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That would be Don Macari; this Baltimore Sun article lists him as the JAG defense lawyer in the case the film was based on. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:32, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removed

I removed the following "background facts" section from the article:

Extrajudicial punishment has never been tagged a "Code Red" with the U.S. Marines. The usual term is a "blanket party".

This Baltimore Sun article about one of the Marines involved in the case that inspired the play and film says, "One night, while watching a videotape of the movie "Animal House," the other Marines decided to take action, calling a "Code Red," jargon for a hazing, to teach Private Alvarado a lesson." Since the hidden-text note said CMIIW ("Correct Me If I'm Wrong"), I removed the claim that the term "Code Red" is never used. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:32, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move per request. Hatnote to play is already in play.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:33, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A Few Good Men (film) → A Few Good Men — Already redirects here. Gary King (talk · scripts) 04:20, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. What about A Few Good Men (play)? Or (to a much lesser extent) A Few Good Men (The Vampire Diaries episode)? Is a dab page not a viable option here? PC78 (talk) 09:31, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Google News Search and Google Books Search do not show a lot for the play. It is difficult to find coverage to determine its fame when the same people were involved in both the play and the film. Can anyone weigh in about its fame? It's hard to tell at face value, though there is precedent on this kind of primary-secondary reversal: Road to Perdition and Road to Perdition (comics), the latter being pretty obscure. Erik (talk | contribs) 16:52, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The film is getting 7 to 10 times the pageviews of the play over the past few months, so is the primary topic. Especially with only two articles, a dab page is not necessary. Station1 (talk) 11:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support per primacy of the film. Play article can be linked in a hatnote. Erik (talk | contribs) 18:19, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Parodies

Does anyone think that parodies of the famous climactic scene are worth mentioning ? In the "Simpsons" episode "Sideshow Bob Roberts" Sideshow Bob is on trial and delivers the famous line "you can't handle the truth" -- and expands on it to the point of absurdity (i.e. "I deride your truth-handling abilities!"); also in "Third Rock from the Sun" Dick exclaims "I can't handle the truth" in typical dramatic fashion when pressed about "the truth". Yes, no ? 76.113.27.172 (talk) 09:53, 12 February 2012 (UTC) Also, on "How I met your mother" when Lily is caught orchestrating a number of Ted's breakups, the two of them reenact the entire scene, almost verbatim.76.113.27.172 (talk) 04:40, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I don't see the impact of adding a parody section. A section on the impact in popular culture, specifically "You can't handle the truth!" as long as there was sufficient reference material in which to cite. User:Aneah 12:51, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jessup

Is his name Jessep or Jessup? I haven't seen the movie in a long time and I have conflicting accounts of how his last name is spelled. --Kevin W. - Talk 20:05, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ten-year-old comment, but this hasn't been fixed. It is "Jessep" in the end credits of the movie, which is consistent with the screenplay and the stage play. MFNickster (talk) 07:36, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Syntax

This line "Dawson explains that they had failed to stand up those too weak to fight for themselves..." reads oddly. It is missing a "for" perhaps, and should be "Dawson explains that they had failed to stand up for those too weak to fight for themselves..." 130.184.163.100 (talk) 21:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thx. Fat&Happy (talk) 21:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 3 September 2013

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Col. Jessup should be Col. Jessep (see e.g. cast of the play 'A Few Good men', movie trailer etc. 84.114.155.124 (talk) 23:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

IMDB (not RS I know) lists it as Jessup, so I wonder if the name was different in the movie than the play. RudolfRed (talk) 03:09, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: There does not appear to be a consensus for this change. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 00:54, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Old topic, but the spelling is "Jessep" as documented by the movie credits, the screenplay, and the stage play. I am going to "be bold" and change this. MFNickster (talk) 07:46, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubuoUTSCbzw

https://screenwritersnetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/A-Few-Good-Men-Script-1992.pdf

https://www.scribd.com/document/446965518/A-Few-Good-Men-Stage-Play-by-Aaron-Sorkin

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On the righthand side of the page in the Credits ("Directed by", "Produced by", etc.), under "Starring" between "Kevin Pollak" and "James Marshall" should be added the name of Wolfgang Bodison (LCPL Dawson). He was a much bigger part of this show than he is often given credit for. 173.14.131.22 (talk) 16:41, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 17:17, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Santiago's cause of death: no mention?

His lactic acidosis caused him to drown in his own blood. Should this specificity not be included here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.115.151.61 (talk) 20:00, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nominated for Best Film Editor

Seeing that all the Oscar nominations except "Best Film Editing" also list the names of the nominees, I decided to add Robert Leighton after "Best Film Editing", but then noticed the page is locked. Could somebody do this for me? Thanks in advance. (By the way, just curious: any theory on why this page is locked in the first place?) 71.204.84.204 (talk) 06:26, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Page locked due to vandalism. --Cielliere (talk) 20:08, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2015

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Please add the fact that the Bollywood film Shaurya is an inspiration of this movie, but not a remake. Kingaki2604 (talk) 11:31, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 16:07, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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At the end of the second to last paragraph, the words "his actions" have no space, rendering it "hisactions" [sic]. 95.56.110.40 (talk) 16:29, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done RudolfRed (talk) 16:55, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2016

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The character played by Demi Moore is called Joanne. In this document there are 2 references to her but the characters name is spelt with a captial A in the name "JoAnne". This is minor issue but still grammatically incorrect.

Matac (talk) 15:12, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done - the references I have found state "Lt. Cdr. JoAnne Galloway" you will need to cite reliable sources before the name is changed - Arjayay (talk) 15:23, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It also appears that the character in A Few Good Men (play) was also JoAnne Galloway - Arjayay (talk) 15:26, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2016

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I want to add/change some of the plot details as I feel important points have been missed and I would like to include them. Rmbayley81 (talk) 17:40, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done This is not the right page to request additional user rights.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please note that the plot is only slightly short of the 700 word maximum for film-plots, so any additions will need to be short, or offset by removals. - Arjayay (talk) 18:30, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 20170604

The reference to a code-red as an " violent extra judicial punishment" should be amended to reflect its status as an, NJP or Non-Judicial Punishment while maintaining its hyperlink. Maver1ck911 (talk) 22:04, 4 June 2017 (UTC)Maver1ck911[reply]

Edit request: spelling correction?

I just saw the second time Guantanamo is mentioned in the article it's misspelled as "Guntanamo". Can someone fix this please? --67.8.232.45 (talk) 19:22, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. Station1 (talk) 19:59, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Assault or murder

At A Few Good Men § Production it says the Marines "came close to killing a fellow marine", which agrees with the two cited sources (NYT and thisistheatre). However this HollywoodReporter article, for which Sorkin was apparently interviewed, says they were charged with murder, which is also what happened in the movie. Anyone research this yet? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 10:45, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Salary

Apparently Cruise was paid $12.5 million for this film.[1] Might be worth noting in the production section. -- 109.76.211.174 (talk) 03:13, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Critical Response

I believe that Roger Ebert is trying to protect the system. However it is a film, and I don't believe that a "red code" really existed. The film shows that some military men (in high ranks) think diferrently. Roger Ebert gave also a very bad critic for the film "Dead poets society", for the same reason. Jestmoon(talk) 18:21, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Roger Ebert is a reputable critic and a reliable source. Personal opinion of his review, is irrelevant to this encyclopedia article. The content of his review is represented accurately and it has not been given undue emphasis. It is not clear what changes you think should be made to improve the article, for example adding comments from a different critic to give balance to the Critical response section, or perhaps making specific edits to the currently wording. Please go ahead and make a specific suggestion if you can think of specific changes to improve this article. -- 109.76.202.168 (talk) 22:42, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Kaffee and Ross exchange kudos before Ross departs to arrest Kendrick."

Kaffee and Ross exchange kudos before Ross departs to arrest Kendrick.

They exchange pleasantries which tacitly acknowledge (possibly grudging) mutual respect. But this is gobbledygook - it is simply not possible to exchange kudos. 95.123.54.66 (talk) 22:47, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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65 reviews on Rotten Tomatoes should be 66. Zpunk125 (talk) 18:38, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done Padgriffin ^{Griffin's Nest} 09:37, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How I Met Your Mother S04E17 The Front Porch

That episode has a reference to the "did you order the code red??" 2003:DF:C70D:3936:6D1D:11F5:8010:1D15 (talk) 21:07, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Paragraph 5, Line 4 in the "Inspiration" section: Change "The attorney who defended Col. Adams" to "The attorney who defended Cox." The source cited in Footnote 9 supports this revision. The current statement defies logic. Col. Adams (the real-life counterpart of Col. Jessep in the movie (Jack Nicholson)) was essentially the enemy of attorney Donald Marcari (the real-life counterpart of Lieutenant Kaffee in the movie (Tom Cruise)). Marcari's goal was to absolve his client, Cox, of responsibility by blaming his actions on Col Adams' implied order. Marcari would not try to shift the blame to Col. Adams if Col. Adams was his client. 2601:155:8401:9820:542D:8E82:F068:ACF5 (talk) 23:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done The source confirms he was the atty. for Cox RudolfRed (talk) 02:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This Bollywood movie is directly plagiarized from Hollywood’s “A Few Good Men” and NOT loosely based on that movie. Hence it is important that this be mentioned unless the author is able to produce a license. Else it is copyright infringement and Wikipedia is allowing a criminal activity to continue. DeeSund (talk) 02:44, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean – I can't see anything in the article talking about a Bollywood movie. Tollens (talk) 07:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

conflicting descriptions of where the film premiered?

In the intro block it says the film premiered in westwood, but down in the release section near the bottom it says it premiered at the odeon theater in england. Perhaps someone should figure out which is correct. I'm far too lazy to do so. 2A00:79E1:ABC:133:71BA:6635:3E1B:888D (talk) 01:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]