Talk:RUR-5 ASROC
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[edit]I am thinking the number of ships ASROC is installed on should be reduced, with the US navy having less than 100 destroyers and frigates, but I am not sure how many are carried on allied ships. SeaphotoTalk 00:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I would agree at one point ASROC was installed on >100 ships, but that was in 1990 (52 Knox FF, 26 Cruisers(CG/CGN), 23 Adams Class DDGs) How many if any ships/Nations still have operational ASROCs? - US Navy no longer has any. - I do consider VLA to be a totally different weapon. later on this Talk page, it questions/comments on VLA and all Foreign users. The only confirmed foreign nation with VLA is Japan - Japan is suspected by me to be the only Country with operational ASROCs- plus all Listed Countries for ASROC, are only for fact they now operate Knox Class (or Bronstein) class Frigates (not general public knowledge, but I doubt weapons and launcher still operationa, support assist provided by the USA. Wfoj3 (talk)
Australia
[edit]Why does Australia keep creeping back into the list of ASROC users? I have removed it once before. The RAN has never used ASROC, and so far as I can see, is not contemplating using it in the future. Australia did develop an antisubmarine missile called Ikara, which was (basically) a remote-controlled rocket-propelled aircraft carrying a single lightweight torpedo. Ikara was regarded at the time as being superior to ASROC.
If Australia is to be placed back in the list of users, I think some citation is needed. A google search for "ASROC site:.gov.au" reveals a single reference to the fact that Mk 46 torpedoes can be fired by ASROCs (but no reference to the RAN doing this). and in the Navy's equipment page, ASROC is not mentioned as a missile (the missiles mentioned are Harpoon, Penguin, Standard, and Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile). All other references to ASROC are either public submissions to Parliamentary Enquiries, reports on visits to Australia of nuclear powered/armed vessels, and assorted government publications not one of which makes any reference to the RAN using ASROC. CMarshall (talk) 14:39, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- The Australian Ikara missile is now completely obsolete and out of service, so forget about that one. Hence, you need to check into what kind of ASW missiles that the four Adeleide-class guided-missile frigates carry, if any. Their sister ships for the United States, Spain, Poland, Taiwan, Turkey, Egypt, are capable of firing ASROC missiles, and many of them still do -- except all of the remaining American ones have had their Mark 13 missile launchers and magazines removed -- hence they do not have SM-1s, ASROCs, or Harpoons anymore.
- Then, there is the case of the new RAN AEGIS destroyers that are under construction (or maybe just one will be built at a time). They WILL NOT have Ikara launchers, and in fact their main missile launchers will be a version of the American Mark 41 Vertical Launch System. The Mark 41 VLS is capable of carrying and firing Standard missiles (SM-2, SM-3, and whatever ones), Vertical-Launch ASROCs, and Tomahawk cruise missiles. (Harpoon missile launchers are separate ones.)
- It is nearly certain that ALL of the AEGIS ships use versions of the Mark 41 VLS: American, Spanish, Japanese, South Korean, Norwegian, and the upcoming Australian ones.
- Why is it that none of these countries has ever invested in any AEGIS ships? Canada, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Sweden, or Brazil? These countries were supposed to be naval powers, but as I have read, the Royal Navy is about 25 percent of the size that it was during 1982 -- the time of the War in the Falklands. Also, I read that the U.K. and France came to an agreement to build two identical aircraft carriers for their navies. HOWEVER, the French Navy wanted another nuclear-powered one, but the British Parliament did not want one for the Royal Navy.98.67.168.208 (talk) 20:00, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
ASROC Matchbox Mounting on Asagiri(DD158)
[edit]The box mountings on JMSDF Asagiri are ASROC launcher forward and Sea Sparrow aft--Indra313 (talk) 09:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
The "Specific Installations" heading seems to have got entangled with the illustrations. I'm sorry that I don't know how to sort it out myself. Dawright12 (talk) 11:35, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
ASROC missile
[edit]ASROC missile should redirect here to this article.98.67.168.208 (talk) 20:11, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
ASROC missile
[edit]ASROC missile should redirect here.98.67.168.208 (talk) 20:12, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
ROC
[edit]Republic of China operates a number of Knox class, and the ASROC system is still operational on those ships. The MK-16 is loaded with a mix load of ASROC and Anti-ship missiles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C5E:2180:7D9:3046:CD43:F417:BD16 (talk) 22:01, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
RUR-5 ASROC is still in use.
[edit]This article uses the past tense, when the missile is still used by a number of navies.
ROC Navy
ROCS Fong Yang (FFG-933) ROCS Fen Yang (FFG-934) ROCS Lan Yang (FFG-935) ROCS Hwai Yang (FFG-937) ROCS Ning Yang (FFG-938) ROCS Yi Yang (FFG-939)
Japanese Navy
JS Shimakaze (DDG-172) JS Asagiri JS Yamagiri JS Yūgiri JS Amagiri JS Hamagiri JS Setogiri JS Sawagiri JS Umigiri JS Matsuyuki
2600:6C5E:2100:EF7F:BE97:AF4:3223:40B5 (talk) 01:39, 11 January 2021 (UTC)Z. Edwardson
Anti-submarine weapon weapon ?
[edit]In the History section, the initials ASW seem to stand for Anti-submarine warfare in the first paragraph, and for Anti-submarine weapon in the second. It would seem beneficial to rephrase the whole section so as to eliminate the ambiguity and to eschew the RAS syndrome. Noliscient (talk) 13:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
USCG
[edit]Claim that USCG Hamilton-class WHECs were equipped with ASROC is unsourced, and I have removed it. Indeed, here is a reliable source that they were not so equipped, at least as of 1985:
https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1985/october/surface-warfares-weak-leg 149.101.1.117 (talk) 20:32, 19 May 2023 (UTC)