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GA Review by Binksternet

I will be reviewing this article. Binksternet (talk) 04:12, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • One thing I'd like to see is the word 'spigot' brought into the article, per the NPS.gov article.
Done. Sorta. Could you please elaborate a little? ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 14:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think you got it. I just wanted the Japanese WWII weapon defined to be a spigot mortar.
  • Another is some clarification about which notes go with which references. You have a bibliography with four entries but only three entries in Notes. Two of the notes entries are so short they are cryptic... I would like to see full titles on your Notes. Ditch the wargames biblio reference--it's not being used and it's not accepted as scholarly by the world of historians. Binksternet (talk) 04:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 14:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done, as well as a template for feet to meters.
See comment below. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 14:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's interesting. Should the US Army article be the one we use or should we state a range? ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 14:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going with a range now. 14:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Bataan might have had 175 rounds of 32 cm mortar, divided between 24 tubes, according to this page.
  • I would like to know if the 320 mm rounds ever killed Americans on Iwo Jima and, if so, how many and from which units? Where were the mortars aimed? When were they fired? This hyperwar document describes Company E (which battalion?) hearing 320 mm rounds go over their heads in the night to land harmlessly at sea. Hard to believe such a huge round would be wasted.

I'm heading off to a late holiday vacation for a few days but I'll leave this GA Review open so that you guys can work on the points I've brought up. I might have a chance to continue the review during my vacation but I'll certainly check on it on January 5th when I'm back. Binksternet (talk) 05:23, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While I have absolutly nothing to do with the GA review, I would like to make a few comments. I am currently opposed to giving this article GA status. It fails part 3(a) ofthe criteria as it isn't broad in its coverage. To be concise in my opinion it would have to be strucured as something like this, each section answering the questions I have highlighted:
  • Developent/Backround – info on backround and development; why was it developed and how? Of course you'd have to mention all countries who have used 320 mil mortars.
  • Design – how did it work? You would also have tot alk about the differenct ways each one worked in each country.--Patton123 20:28, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Employment – how was it used and by whom?
Just thought I'd add my two cents. Currently the article isn't worhty of GA IMO.--Patton123 20:26, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good points all. As it now stands, it not only fails A-Class; it fails B-Class. It needs a lot of work, but I have been allowing the editors some few days to bring it along if they wish.
It appears most of the article's authors have been picturing in their minds that the article is solely about the Japanese WWII weapon in which case it need only give a nod of recognition to earlier and contemporary uses. If the article is ever to be about ALL 320 mm, 32 cm and 13-inch mortars then it will require yet more expansion. I'm still on vacation (kind of) so I'm still keeping this review open in case someone has the time to greatly expand the article's coverage with a flurry of concentrated work.
I have a question regarding a point of order: If the article's title is changed to Type 98 something or other, will this GAR necessarily be terminated, or would it continued under the new name? Binksternet (talk) 23:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This likely won't be finished by January 5th. This review could be closed now. I'll make some changes and renom it once I feel I have addressed all the current issues. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 04:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I will now close the review. Cheers to all who got it this far! Binksternet (talk) 04:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]