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Merge to 2023 Sudan clashes, 15 April 2023, from 2023 Sudanese Armed Forces-Rapid Support Forces confrontation to 2023 Sudanese coup d'état attempt, see discussion.
Not moved, 18 April 2023, from 2023 Sudan clashes to Third Sudanese Civil War, see discussion.
Moved, 19 April 2023, from 2023 Sudan clashes to 2023 Sudan conflict, see discussion.
Not moved, 21 April 2023, from 2023 Sudan conflict to 2023 Sudanese conflict, see discussion.
Not moved, 25 April 2023, from 2023 Sudan conflict to 2023 Sudan crisis, see discussion.
Not moved, 25 April 2023, from 2023 Sudan conflict to Third Sudanese Civil War, see discussion.
Not moved, 4 May 2023, from 2023 Sudan conflict to Third Sudanese Civil War, see discussion.
Procedural close, 5 May 2023, from 2023 Sudan conflict to 2023 Sudanese conflict, see discussion.
Moved to War in Sudan (2023), 3 September 2023, from 2023 Sudan conflict to 2023 Sudan war, see discussion.
Moved, 27 December 2023, from War in Sudan (2023) to War in Sudan (2023–present), see discussion.
Moved, 18 May 2024, from War in Sudan (2023–present) to Sudanese civil war (2023–present), see discussion.
Not moved, 26 May 2024, to Third Sudanese Civil War, see discussion.

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2025

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Rsf No longer control most of geziera state, so change areas mostly controlled by Rsf to not include geziera state . The Darkness 1 (talk) 23:15, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 02:24, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

the image is in wiki commons, if you know how change svg images, please have at it or wait for an experience editor to do it. Maybe @GGOTCC, @Miki1234568, or @Borysk5 FuzzyMagma (talk) 21:14, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FuzzyMagma I have calculus tests this week, but updating the map is something I can certainly do over the weekend (I've been meaning to do it for a while). You can also use free SVG editors (some online) to draw the borders how you wish. On that note, do we have any existing maps of Al-Gerizera State to see exactly who controls what parts? GGOTCC (talk) 01:15, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Take your time and good luck with your exams.

as for the map, frankly only BBC produce similar map but you can look to Timeline of the Sudanese civil war (2025) for information about places that was recently captured by SAF FuzzyMagma (talk) 05:02, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FuzzyMagma can you give me a image of this --Miki1234568 (talk) 21:17, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have tried yesterday. You can edit svg image (the original file) using multiple software, I use Inkscape. So just download the original from the commons and it will have the svg code FuzzyMagma (talk) 21:21, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I already make a new version, today will be active. Miki1234568 (talk) 07:32, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done: --Miki1234568 (talk) 15:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also it would be good if you put Diling and Kaduqli as contested between SAF and SPLM-N. Also SPLM-N had not even approached Abu Jubeiha, much less been holding it under their control. 93.139.237.167 (talk) 15:23, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2025

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Suggestion: change the beginning of the first paragraph to improve readability and avoid explanatory sentences between commas. This can help improve readability. Eg:

"A civil war between two major rival factions of the military government of Sudan began during Ramadan on 15 April 2023.[21].The two opponent factions consist of the Sudanese Armed Forces (SAF) under Abdel Fattah al-Burhan, and the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF) and its allies (collectively the Janjaweed coalition) under the Janjaweed leader Hemedti." ClaraChagas (talk) 17:42, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done

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Aston305 (talk) 22:24, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Link, update--will add content later.

Link: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/8/sudan-army-claims-major-advances-against-rsf-in-greater-khartoum JohnAdams1800 (talk) 20:32, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Should title be "third sudanese civil war"

Should the title reflect this is the third major civil war in Sudan? ScotPolHist (talk) 14:04, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If sources are calling it that. CMD (talk) 15:07, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]