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In the news nomination

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Remove "Government of Sudan" and "government of peace and unity" from battle engagements ( we can keep it on this page )

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Direct government don't actually intervene in military engagements I just want to check and see if we agree why are we adding the Governmenent of Sudan and Government of Peace and Unity to military battles. Governments don't intervene in war their army does SDUpdates32349 (talk) 10:50, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is bit special case, as its a civil war with two governments, more like Libyan civil war (2014–2020) FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:58, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a good point. It is done. Donenne (talk) 07:49, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is South Sudan a belligerent?

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I saw news[1] that South Sudan launched strikes against the Nuer White Army, which is an ally of the SPLM-IO. According to the "Faytuks Network"[2], South Sudan declared war on the group which I have seen some people claim as South Sudan effectively joining the war. Combined with the fighting between South Sudan and the RSF, and assuming this reporting is accurate, would this constitute expanding the map to include South Sudan and add them as a belligerent in the infobox? Sir Ross ▀▀ (talk) 13:08, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understood the first part but lost me when you made a link between the RSF and South Sudan. Nuer White Army is a South Sudanese militia and not in Sudan. FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:03, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I may be getting mixed up (mostly because reporting on African wars is not as robust and clear as elsewhere). But I have seen occasional reports of South Sudan working with RSF in some instances, fighting with them in other instances, and I recently saw something that made it seem like the Nuer White Army had some sort of relation with Sudan. I am unfamiliar with the nuances of the war but I made this topic because I have been seeing a lot of groups mentioned in the Portal:Current Events and on war update YouTube channels that mention groups that aren't listed in the infobox like the SPLM-IO and such. Sir Ross ▀▀ (talk) 13:21, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can definitely add this information to the section about foreign involvement FuzzyMagma (talk) 14:12, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But we do not list support groups in the infobox, see Template talk:Infobox military conflict#RfC on "supported by" being used with the belligerent parameter FuzzyMagma (talk) 14:14, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@FuzzyMagma the page is becoming exceptionally too long. At this rate, the foreign involvement section will become an A-Z soup enticing editors to dump all kinds of foreign intervention (however benign), not to mention recent edits by a new editor that appear to compromise the quality of the article. Borgenland (talk) 16:15, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I can see that but WP:overtagging and not being constructive (or providing solutions or a discussion) about what need to be done, makes tagging useless; hence why I removed.
If it was you who did the tagging please put it back and give us and idea about what you think need to be trimmed, or we can discuss which part to make a separate article. But tagging and praying someone will fix it is not useful FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:37, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See latest edits. I would like to inform you that I had also tried to have the article protected from a suspected vandal but got rejected as it was not seen as serious a few days ago. Borgenland (talk) 16:46, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to hear that. I will keep an eye out. With Khartoum liberation, the war became major news for a moment and I think this is why you saw these editors. Give it couple of week and they will disappear. FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:48, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I shorten some of the sections, not sure which points does address in your tag, but see below and remove the tags as appropriate
  • too long: We are now below what is considered long
  • undue weight: shorten most of sections. let me know if there still more.
  • bare URLs: I did not see any
FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:09, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I’m on mobile right now so I couldn’t do major edits or read extensively, but generally I’m satisfied with weight reduction. Borgenland (talk) 05:27, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]