Talk:Nord Stream pipelines sabotage

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Procedural close, 6 July 2023, to Nord Stream pipelines sabotage, see discussion.
Moved, 16 August 2024, from 2022 Nord Stream pipeline sabotage to Nord Stream pipelines sabotage, see discussion.

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Prior to Russia's occupation of Crimea in 2014

So the article says Die Welt reported that the results of investigations by German and foreign authorities revealed that the sabotage was allegedly planned by a Ukrainian group prior to Russia's occupation of Crimea in 2014. referenced to Nord Stream: Attack is said to have been planned ten years ago - WELT (archive.ph)

I'm looking at the translated source. It says
The attack on the two Nord Stream pipelines in the Baltic Sea is said to have been planned by a Ukrainian group before the occupation of Crimea by Russia in 2014. WELT AM SONNTAG learned this from German investigators. Accordingly, corresponding considerations did not only arise with Russia's war of aggression. This is indicated by the results of investigations by German and foreign authorities, in which intelligence information has also been incorporated.
... but then it hangs in air. The newspaper does not elaborate on who said what, and why the publication reaches such a conclusion. It just goes on with describing other details, unrelated to its intro paragraph.

This is not what the quality source should be. ManyAreasExpert (talk) 10:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure this conclusion is based on the policy. They could have many reasons to withhold some information (protecting sources or smth else) but it doesn't matter, it's still a reliable source. Alaexis_¿question? 22:05, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If we ignore arguments above... No, exceptional claims require exceptional sources. ManyAreasExpert (talk) 22:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Link to Andromeda is wrong

There is a link to Andromeda, but the article is not about the much smaller yacht used in the attack. It is about a completely different ship.87.143.146.221 (talk) 13:26, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted. Guiy de Montfort: Especially when modifying high-importance articles, try to exercise some modicum of caution, so as to avoid introducing incorrect and misleading information. Thanks. Lklundin (talk) 16:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please add reference

Please add the following reference when citing Domjahn: https://sprengtechnik.de/sprengung-nordstream/ DaDoKa (talk) 12:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DaDoKa: Thanks for the link! It's a WP:BLOG though, so we should be careful. And in the spirit of WP:COI, you should probably disclose that you are David Domjahn, the author of the blog.

But more importantly: In the blog comments, you provide details of your calculations regarding the amount of energy released when the high-pressure pipelines exploded. I'm pretty sure the calculations are off by a factor of about 20, and I think this undermines your claim that the explosions couldn't have been caused by shaped charges. See my comments on your blog. I'm looking forward to clearing this up!

Chrisahn (talk) 01:11, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Biden quote was removed

This wiki page is clearly biased and is being manipulated.

On Feb 7 2022, President Joe Biden told reporters the following: “If Russia invades [Ukraine], there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it”.

Source: https://www.newsweek.com/video-biden-saying-end-nord-stream-resurfaces-after-pipeline-leak-1747005 Observer157 (talk) 11:19, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what to say except WP:CIR. You should be more careful before you embarrass yourself using words like "manipulated". — Chrisahn (talk) 11:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's right there in the background section. Alaexis_¿question? 12:35, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Change "two-year-day" to "second anniversary"

This error is located in the Timeline section, under Involvement of the United States. 4th paragraph, second line. I believe this is a literal from Danish. It does not read well and is confusing for English speakers. Thank you WikiEnjoyer356 (talk) 21:48, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Skynxnex (talk) 22:22, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]