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Western insensitivities
[edit]Those visiting Turkey after the failed coup attempt, such as U.S. Vice President Joe Biden and NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg, said that they had no idea about the depth of the events until they saw the damage first hand in Turkey. Most Western media censored the dramatic pictures of the coup night and instead focused on attacking the president and the government. These points should be mentioned in the article. -213.74.186.109 (talk) 07:30, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- So find a reliable source saying that most Western media did any of those things, and then add it to the article if you want. Earthscent (talk) 12:14, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
New article could use review
[edit]The recently created article Turkey’s media purge after the failed July 2016 coup d’état could use some attention from knowledgeable editors. Does it warrant a separate article or could it be incorporated here? Cheers, --Animalparty! (talk) 23:11, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
What is needed is an entirely new article detailing the actions imposed under the State of Emergency. The State of Emergency has nothing directly to do with the coup d'état events, and it has had a far greater effect that the failed coup. To have events that took place under that emergency incorporated into this article becomes less and less credible as the period of the "emergency" is repeatedly extended. Are we really to tag on a huge range of events that may (since the SOE seems to be renewing every 3 months) ultimately range over a timespan of a year (or more) into an article dealing with an event that was over with in less than a day? Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 16:18, 28 January 2017 (UTC)Blocked sock:Meowy.
Self-coup
[edit]I am having hard time to understand the difference between this page and Self-coup page as well as Template:Coup d'état that template. This page does not state any information about self-coup, however the above mentioned ones do. Certain users seems to add this information in above mentioned page and template. --185.20.165.182 (talk) 08:03, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
- Please read this section. Samsara 20:48, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Dbrodbeck: I imagine the above might be of interest. Samsara 20:51, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping. I'm not sure that this section, which is referenced, and the referenced stuff that was removed today at self-coup show what our IP friend wants to show. Perhaps I am misreading something? Dbrodbeck (talk) 22:21, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
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Putsch hymn
[edit]I remember the night from July 15. to 16. in 2016 and the morning after this night the song Viva la vida from Coldplay was played about a dozen times on German radio. The first time I heard it in the night was right after the (false) announcement that Erdogan wanted to flee to Germany but was refused to land on German soil. I think this is worth mentioning in the article. --2003:5F:EB4F:F84F:A2:957A:AD97:85FF (talk) 14:02, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
- Your memory is not a reliable source. In any case there may have been many reason (e.g. song of the day) why a station plays a song many times. Before we can take this further, please provide reliable secondary sources that (a) report the occurrence of the dozens of plays and (b) explicitly relate the playing of the song to the coup attempt. Thanks. Arnoutf (talk) 19:56, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Comment on my edit comment
[edit]In my edit comment for this edit on 1 Dec 2017, I only meant that some part of my contributed text (the description of Fuller) was from the Wikipedia article Graham E. Fuller. I used the first part of the lead, which has presumably been NPOVed over at that article, modified a little to make sense in the context. The Istanbul prosecutor's office may not consider his present career as an author to be significant, but that's what Wikipedians editing that article judged to be appropriate as the more important info about him. Any disagreements should go over to Talk:Graham E. Fuller or if they are uncontroversial, straight to Graham E. Fuller. Boud (talk) 22:39, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
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This article screams misinformation and political partisanship.
[edit]Wikipedia is a source of information and knowledge. It should be the duty for all of us to make sure that the information is transparent and accurate. The sources on this article are a academically irresponsible. Most of the "sources" cited are not in English. That's fine, however they look like tabloid newspapers. There should be some investigation into this article. Seems like it has been edited by partisan forces, portraying an agenda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1008:B051:AFB5:FD06:2BCF:6283:A12 (talk) 19:15, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Hello @2600:1008:B051:AFB5:FD06:2BCF:6283:A12:. What do you find ‘political’ in this article? There isn’t any ‘political’ information in this article nor is there any ‘misinformation’. The sources not being English also doesn’t make a difference because they are reliable, it has nothing to do with “ partisan forces, portraying an agenda“. I would like you to remember that if you don’t like the way something turned out you don’t have to write meaningless and misinformative comments like this. A lot of heroic people died on this dreadful night while they were trying to defend their country and you making comments like this just pisses me off. Think before you write next time, Rodrigo Valequez (talk) 20:08, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Support from Russia?
[edit]So one user decided that it is an great idea to add some random Turkish opposition news sites as a source and labbel them as ‘’Turkish media’’? Neither Russia nor Turkey have claimed such a thing. These are just some rumours from some random news sites. And a if a user claims that he trusts opposition media more than state media then please just stop with it. Thats not how Wikipedia works. You need reliable sources for something like this. Just adding stuff and then say that it is ‘’per Turkish media’’ is nonsense Gal17928 (talk) 22:06, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
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Countries supporting the coup
[edit]The lead says: "Unlike some Middle Eastern governments that supported the coup or others that waited to see the outcome of the coup" citing Al Monitor.
What are these countries? Is the source (Al Monitor) a reliable source? How come this information is in the lead and not in the main content of the article? a455bcd9 (Antoine) (talk) 19:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
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