Talk:1927 FA Cup final

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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 21, 2016. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Arsenal goalkeeper Dan Lewis blamed a greasy shirt for letting in the only goal of the 1927 FA Cup Final, gifting victory to Cardiff City?
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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:1927 FA Cup Final/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Dr. Blofeld (talk · contribs) 07:48, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Miyagawa: Not much to complain about, good job:

"and a further 15,000 fans listed " -listened?

Ooops, yep. Fixed as suggested. Miyagawa (talk) 17:03, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"The phrase "back to square one" was created during the broadcast; square one was the term used to describe an area nearest to one of the goal" -seriously? Is that accurate? You'd think it older than that.

So did I! But, yes, apparently as this was the first game broadcast they published this grid system in the Radio Times that week (although I haven't been able to track down the magazine to confirm this as the website mentioning that isn't reliable enough for Wiki purposes) and would refer to a numbered grid location for where the ball was. Square one happened to be by one of the goals, so when the team played the ball back to the goalkeeper (as they would prior to the rules changes for back passes in the 90's), the phrase "back to square one" (i.e. the start of a play) was born. Miyagawa (talk) 17:03, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"and a chance was had by Hardy which appears to shake Lewis " -appeared?

Corrected as suggested. Miyagawa (talk) 17:03, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:25, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr. Blofeld: Great, thanks for reviewing. I have to admit when the contest started, this was my #1 article target as I felt there would be a lot out there about the game. Miyagawa (talk) 17:03, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I did just find this on the BBC website. It doesn't have the grid, but it does mention "the plan" being on another page. Miyagawa (talk) 17:09, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Pass or Fail: This might further benefit from somebody at the Football project giving it a good going over but it looks decent enough to me, excellent job! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:11, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious

Re: "back to square one", although the bit about a grid being printed in the Radio Times is true, the Oxford English Dictionary says it is highly unlikely that this is the origin of the aforementioned phrase. They cite the earliest usage as 25 years after this match: "He has the problem of maintaining the interest of the reader who is always being sent back to square one in a sort of intellectual game of snakes and ladders". If you think about it, this is a far more likely origin than the football one.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:43, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Revdel

Please, revdel this edit and edit summary (and pretty much every related revert) because of persistent disruptive editing. © Tbhotch^™ (en-3). 04:08, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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