Talk:10th Massachusetts Battery

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the 10th Massachusetts Battery article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Military history: North America / United States / American Civil War C‑class

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history

C

This article has been rated as C-class on the project's quality scale.

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	North American military history task force
	United States military history task force
	American Civil War task force

United States: Massachusetts / Civil War / Military history Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Massachusetts portal This article is supported by WikiProject Massachusetts (assessed as Low-importance).
	American Civil War portal This article is supported by WikiProject Military history - American Civil War task force.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Military history - U.S. military history task force.
	An editor has requested that an image or photograph be added to this article.

Naming conventions for Massachusetts battery articles

I'm putting some feelers out here because this was the first of the Massachusetts battery articles. This comment, though, is relevant to all Massachusetts battery, or light artillery articles. Recently there was a conversation here regarding a shift in the naming convention for ACW units and Massachusetts regiments in particular. The gist of the consensus reached was that the Wikipedia standard of "common name" should be applied to the extent possible. That is, the names typically used in recent histories (as opposed to the full, formal titles of the 19th century). It occurs to me that the current convention "Nth Massachusetts Light Artillery" (which I've actually been perpetuating in recent new articles) is not only historically incorrect, it also is not the "common name" used in histories. I'm proposing to move all the light artillery articles to "Nth Massachusetts Battery." This is consistent with works by Gordon Rhea, such as this, Stephen Sears, such as this, and Bradley M. Gottfried, such as this. In addition to common use, in strictly literal terms, these units were "batteries" not "light artilleries." I acknowledge that "10th Massachusetts Light Artillery" can sometimes be found in print but I believe it is not common in either 19th or 21st century sources. If there are any issues with this proposal, please comment here. If not, I'll make the switch to "10th Massachusetts Battery" in a few days. Thanks, Historical Perspective 2 (talk) 13:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You've made good calls in the past, so I agree to your proposal. If anyone dissents, they should speak now.Hhfjbaker (talk) 18:49, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Full support here - these articles should be brought in line with common name. Kges1901 (talk) 19:07, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article Evaluation

10th Massachusetts Battery: 10th Massachusetts Battery I chose this article because I remember learning about the Civil War a little in high school and it interested me. I want to see how Massachusetts was involved because I really don't know much about how we were involved.

The Lead doesn't really summarize the article. It's really general and kind of just states the obvious saying that the battery fought in the civil war. It is a very concise lead and does not have any information not in the article but too general.

The content is relevant to the topic, it gave detailed descriptions of where the battery was in the war, who died in the battery, and the commanders. This article seemed like it should have written about battles that they fought in and how they influenced the war but it didn't have this, but it does give a link to another article that talks about this. The content is up to date as it was last edited June 14, 2020.

The article is neutral and does not give any claims, it all looks like facts without any bias. The article doesn't attempt to persuade in any way, it just gave a list of where the battery was at different points in the war and some details about the commanders and a couple other things.

All the facts are backed up by a reliable source, the article has references to books on the war and a article from 1909 on the battery. The sources are not current, one was written in 1909 by one author and the other in 1908 by a press company. The links in the article seem to work.

The article is more of just a list of where the battery went in the war. It's a short article but it does give good details of where the battery went and for how long. There aren't spelling errors and is well organized.

There are not any images in this article.

There is a comment about edits that could be made to the article and how to make the information more accurate. People have commented and said that they'd be ok with the changes.

The article overall is pretty short, it wasn't what I thought it was going to be about, but it does give a lot of information about where the battery went. It gives very good details about where they were during a given time period. I think the article could be improved by talking more about the battles that they were in and how they influenced the war, however they do give a link to another article that talks about this stuff. I think overall this article is a little underdeveloped, it gives accurate information but it is a very short article and there could be more.

Jmw5702 (talk) 21:16, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]