Talk:World Without Nazism

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Was an GONGO now a NGO?

This organization was classified as a GONGO (Government-Organized Non-Governmental Organization) and now is classified as a NGO (Non-Government Organization) The sudden switch seems a bit suspicious to me. Attempting to scrub history for funding? Jim1138 (talk) 01:55, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Obviously there should be a reliable source or sources saying that this organization is funded by a state or states. --Kapoccdcoe (talk) 08:53, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Sander Säde violation

User called Sander Säde has violated the rules by deleting all changes and returing the article into KAPO propaganda style, t.e. solely hostile propagandistic disinformation. The article already includes criticism and the article should be neutral. --Kapoccdcoe (talk) 15:09, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism of Sander Säde is difficult to understand: he prevents all editing of this article after the "1st version" which is false and hostile. --Kapoccdcoe (talk) 16:13, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

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Actually, the article as it was before you two edited it was balanced, neutral and sourced. It was using a wide variety of solid international sources, pretty much for every sentence.

What you two did was introduction of lies, hatred and propaganda, a lot of which is completely made up. For example, your version claims "Officially registered in [[Strasbourg]], [[France]], the organization organizes conferences, discussion clubs and publishes monitoring reports.<ref>Constituent Declaration “World without Nazism” Movement. http://worldwithoutnazism.wordpress.com/about/declaration/</ref>", except that blog link has nothing about Strasbourg, France. Or loaded language, such as "The [[Estonian Security Police]], together with the Nato Cyber Defence Centre in Tallinn (CCD COE), both well-known of its aggressive Russophobic views...", which is both lie and nonsense. Of course, the claim also completely unsourced, too. And last, but not least, the edits of you and Ew61 (which are very similar in style, use of language and POV) are simply in a really bad English. "WWN ha criticized retroactive war crime..", "pro-extreme right publication", etc, etc, etc

Please stop. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for your personal POV-pushing. Such hatred has no place in Wikipedia.

--Sander Säde 16:17, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

The first version of the article was by no means "balanced, neutral and sourced". Obviously the first version should be edited. Sade thinks he has monopoly to prevent all editing of this article and return everything into 1st version! The 1st version is interesting, but it is totally made up of Estonian ultra-nationalist and anti-Russian sentiment, with references to Estonian securotuy police KAPO sources! Obviously that is an interesting version. But it is not for Wikipedia. Sade writes: "What you two did was introduction of lies, hatred and propaganda". That is very hostile comment and against the rules of Wikipedia. To say that the organization is officially registered is France is "introduction of lies, hatred and propaganda" according to Sade. Unfortunately Sade has very problematic position in relation to human rights and therefore his writings in Wikipedia are highly controversial. The propagandistic 1st version of this article is by no means illegal. Sade's claim to prevent any editing of the 1st version is also very interesting demand. It is not acceptable. --Kapoccdcoe (talk) 16:36, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

The 1st version did not have any proper structure, for example. All information was negative. If Sade want to edit this article, please do it. But do not forget to refer also to Russian sources. That would be more objective. The 1st version was made of materials in relation to KAPO. We understand that well! But you have already lost the war. Please behave. This is Wikipedia. This is democracy. Not South African apartheid. --Kapoccdcoe (talk) 16:38, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

This is a commentary written on the homepage of Säde, who does not stand any criticism against his activities in Wikipedia and therefore deletes all. But please read this commentary which he deleted from his own page: Sade is one of those rare Estonians who want to discredit their country by adding into Wikipedia Estonian nationalistic materials and anti-Russian hostile propaganda. For example, Sade want to prevent any editing of the article World without nazism from its 1st version, which is totally negative and hostile. This is not the rule for Wikipedia. Sade, please come into your senses. And do not delete this comment. You should be brave of your country, not discredit it abroad. --Kapoccdcoe (talk) 16:49, 12 February 2012 (UTC)