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"An interesting fact about Village People recordings is that all of the background vocals for their best known recordings were provided by two session musicians who went on to front notable bands; Bill Champlin from Chicago, and Richard Page from Mr. Mister." |
"An interesting fact about Village People recordings is that all of the background vocals for their best known recordings were provided by two session musicians who went on to front notable bands; Bill Champlin from Chicago, and Richard Page from Mr. Mister." |
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Give a source. Their album credits state that vocals were sung only by the members of the Village People. |
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Background vocals?
"An interesting fact about Village People recordings is that all of the background vocals for their best known recordings were provided by two session musicians who went on to front notable bands; Bill Champlin from Chicago, and Richard Page from Mr. Mister."
Give a source. Their album credits state Bold textBold text'that vocals were sung only by the members of the Village People.
First, a good portion of sessions are not listed in album credits when the record company pays the session musician to remain anonymous.
Links to prove the vocals:
- Answers.com is typically a mirror site to wikipedia, so beware. Wahkeenah 00:16, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Ray Simpson had done background vocals before he stepped into the lead. And Victor Willis is also part of the "back-up" band. Hotcop2 (talk) 14:26, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Clean up the history section
I think the history section should be rewritten to be in better chronological order. Bombofin 16:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed. Also, there's quite a few references that are Victor Willis specific. These would be more appropriate in his own Wiki entry. If no one objects, I'll remove them. --Eddylyons (talk) 17:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Willis' "comeback" from years of drug abuse is noteworthy on this page. Cowboy Randy Jones married his boyfriend a couple of years back, perhaps that should be included on here. Hotcop2 (talk) 01:42, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Sources for In The Navy "protests"
I was trying to find newspaper sources to illustrate the scandal, but haven't been able to find anything so far. I was wondering what sources you used for this article and where I might be able to find more information. I would appreciate any contributions. You can email me at gishii@usc.edu.
On Victor Willis' homepage he says that he was the only straight member. However other sources inform that at least the original Cowboy and Indian were gay. Not sure about the 3 remaining.
I'd like to know who's gay and who's straight in the group. I know the rumor is that the AA guy is supposedly straight but has had some substand abuse problems in San Francisco.
Didn't they once refuse to say, for fear of losing half their fans? (Both of them?) ;) And they've claimed to have a 12" "Macho Man". (Do your own joke.) Trekphiler 22:21, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
I heard that only one of them was gay.. dunno which one though
The articile says they wrote a song called "Vincent" but I can find no reference to it on the net, could someone check this up?
- http://www.allmusic.com/ does not list a song "Vincent" under the Village People. I'll remove it from the article. —Wrathchild (talk) 14:51, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
The Ray Simpson link goes to some polititian.
Photo not of the village people
That photo is not the real village people. Looks more like impersonators.
- I agree, that needs to be replaced with a photo of the real band. Midusunknown 10:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- You mean a photo of the band during their earlier years, which has the more commonly know line-up. It might be worth having both a photo of the current band, and another of the band during their most quintessential era. - 81.179.97.0 16:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Quote from article "and "YMCA". More than twenty years later, a dance that involves forming the latter four letters with the dancer's arms and legs is " Doesnt the dance form the letters only using arms? The YMCA link details it only using the arms. -Osic 11 April 2006
It's a fair cop...
Victor Willis has recently had a fair few drug-related run-ins with the law, and at one point over the last few months he was a fugitive. Ironic, given he played the 'Cop'. Would it be worth mentioning this in the article?
- Such references would be more appropriate in his own Wiki entry. (PS, sign your entries)--Eddylyons (talk) 17:35, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
We've omitted a major detail
I know it will be hard finding specific sources to cite, but I find it amazing that the article doesn't mention that in the 1970s, much of the U.S. audience was oblivious to the gay references and subtexts of the group. The ignorance is implied, of course, in the Navy's having featured them in an ad campaign, but we need to add this to the article in some credible way. Lawikitejana 16:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Isn't it the 7th inning?
Don't they play YMCA during the 7th inning stretch (aka after the top and before the bottom of the 7th) at yankee games rather than after the 5th?
- No, it's after the fifth when the ground crew comes out to rake the infield dirt; they touch up the field halfway through the game. NYCityRat 07:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
"cultural references"
Calling it "cultural references" doesn't keep it from being a trivia section. It should go, as per http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_trivia_sections.--345Kai 00:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- It probably should be incorporated into the main text rather than removed. Benjiboi 20:54, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Updates and background
Hello all, I filled in some background info and timeline entries. Hotcop2 18:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I also edited the aticle for flow and continuity. Hotcop2 00:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I fixed up some links, made some pages, and gave it a haircut. Mister ricochet (talk) 09:02, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Section 5 - Set List
The 2nd sentence in the paragraph is incomplete and therefore awkward. (Psychoneko (talk) 12:26, 31 December 2007 (UTC))
- Please be more specific, the paragraphs may, for instance not be numbered for all users. Please quote the sentence and offer an alternative if possible. Benjiboi 14:27, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Also, what say we call this the current set list. I'm pretty sure they haven't used this set list since their inception. --Eddylyons (talk) 17:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
New Pics
Commons:Category:Village People --Fg68at de:Disk 01:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- I've added a few that seemed of better quality. Benjiboi 02:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I believe we're allowed to use album covers... I like the photo you've added, but shouldn't it be in the "present day section" and we capture an original 6 cover for the lead off photo? let me know what you think Hotcop2 (talk) 13:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
- We are allowed to use album covers, but do we have any? Benjiboi 15:52, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Can I email you a good scan of one? I'm not too good with posting photos on Wiki Hotcop2 (talk) 16:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey Benji, I have a picture waiting for you. Email me so I can email you back (your email contact is not on). Hotcop2 (talk) 14:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, what I recommend ... if it's an album cover, find another album cover image and copy the fair use rationale from it. If it's a photo you own then I suggest uploading to commons. Benjiboi 23:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Benji, why don't you switch the photos. Your new one makes sense in the "current day" section, and that other one, boring and inferior as it may be, is the original group and should head up the article. Hotcop2 (talk) 12:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- I agree but I didn't remove it so Satryn may have some concern I'm not aware of, they stated unfree concerns which may have now been met as I've added fair-use rationale to the image. I'd say go ahead and switch them as you suggest. If someone reverts we can discuss what's up. Benjiboi 12:49, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Village People and Gayness
Although now accepted as a gay group, it was their sublety and "undertone" that made them so popular. The gay population got it; the straights were fairly oblivious to anything but the music. YMCA raised a few straight eyebrows, but it wasn't until the Navy pulled "In The Navy" from it's ad campaign that the gay aspect was fully established.
Morali made it a point that the members wouldn't discuss sexuality. Willis' lyrics are delightfully ambiguous -- they fit if you want them to fit. Hotcop2 (talk) 22:38, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
The VP sang "In the Navy" in a music video style with the film's cast over the closing credits. These credits are, interestingly, occasionally omitted when the movie is shown on TV lately. A rights issue, maybe? Karinagw (talk) 16:35, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- More likely the airing station's excising material to fit into a time slot. Benjiboi 20:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)