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== Influences ==

Didn't 2Pac have a lot of influences? How come none of his influences are on the article. He had influences. KRS-One, Rakim, LL Cool J to name a few. Can somebody please tell me why there are no influences on the article?
STAY BLACK ! .. Well in your case STAY WHITE ! PCE THUUGGIN -- THUG LIFE <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.169.29.138|84.169.29.138]] ([[User talk:84.169.29.138|talk]]) 15:50, 29 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Myspace.com/Rhynozmusic31 <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.16.239.211|75.16.239.211]] ([[User talk:75.16.239.211|talk]]) 03:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Kool G rap was one of 2pac's main influences I know that much==

I don't think Rakim is one of them. A correct list would be KRS One, Queen Latifah, MC Lyte, Public Enemny, Whodini, Melly Mell, LL, Mr. Magic, FLASH, Grandmaster Caz, and Salt N' Peppa
to name a few. He mentions some of these people and or songs they did (like Push it by Salt Peppa) on the song Old Skool. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.230.19.191|74.230.19.191]] ([[User talk:74.230.19.191|talk]]) 05:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Good question, go to Allmuis.com and look up 2Pac I think they have a list of some of his influences

Rakim is listed on allmusic.com as an influence to 2pac. Also, in the song "Old School" Tupac says "Eric B. & Rakim was, the shit to me ...", and at the end of the song he says "I came through the door, said it before / That was the SHIT!" a clear reference to Eric B. & Rakim's classic track "Eric B. Is President."

This article should replace all instances of "african american" with "black." Tupac didn't use the phrase african american to describe his work; it's shameful to use a phrase the deceased didn't like to describe his influences.

== Biggie ==

Include The Notrious BIG as a an associated act since Tupac is under Biggie's Associated acts <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Derrickjohnwynn|contribs]]) 22:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Questionable Content==
Can someone varify the line "Some of his ashes were later mixed with cannabis and smoked by members of Outlawz.[46]" ?


Yes. Somebody please verify this. In the referenced article it states there was an ash scattering ceremony, but nothing about smoking some of the ashes with cannabis. [47] <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.173.142.140|76.173.142.140]] ([[User talk:76.173.142.140|talk]]) 23:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

This is true. I've heard it from many sources. Part of the ashes were given to the Outlawz to smoke. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.0.24.7|92.0.24.7]] ([[User talk:92.0.24.7|talk]]) 16:26, 8 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Frankee Confusion ==

Um, i think there should be information disambiguating the connection between 2pac and Frankee <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.178.182.58|124.178.182.58]] ([[User talk:124.178.182.58|talk]]) 09:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Top 10 Billboard Singles==
-How come a alot of the songs in the list of Top 10 Billboard Singles are not said to be top 10 singles in the discography? If I don't get an answer about this in the next few days it needs to be changed. [[User:Duder999|Duder999]] ([[User talk:Duder999|talk]]) 20:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

bianca x <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/90.241.162.86|90.241.162.86]] ([[User talk:90.241.162.86|talk]]) 22:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

how come the sentence referring to tupac as the greatest rapper ever isnt in there anymore? someone should put it back. someone edited BIG and said that hes the best rapper ever, change it back to #3 on BIGs article. i know that that isnt true about BIG but he was stil an excellent rapper.( june 9 2008) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Nellsb|Nellsb]] ([[User talk:Nellsb|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nellsb|contribs]]) 09:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Phonetic Pronunciation ==

I think we should incude a phonetic pronunciation in the opening line of the article. I have heard enough of the media refering to him as "Two-Pack." This is a page that script writers might actually check before programming the teleprompter if they are unsure of how to inform the Brokaws and O'Reilys how to pronounce the names of the icons of today's young people. -[[User:Wakamusha|Wakamusha]] ([[User talk:Wakamusha|talk]]) 19:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

::Go back through the page history to find the IPA phonetic pronunciation, which we previously included, but which was unceremoniously stripped by someone who thought it was unimportant. [[User:SqlPac|SqlPac]] ([[User talk:SqlPac|talk]]) 03:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

== Origin vs. Birthplace ==

Can someone please explain to me the difference between origin and birthplace? As it stands now, he has one birthplace (New York) and two origins, which are, conveniently, 3000 miles from one another (in CA and MD). I feel as though something here is wrong. [[User:Tiger Khan|Tiger Khan]] ([[User talk:Tiger Khan|talk]]) 02:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

:There was a discussion about origin versus birthplace before. The arguments were basically these:
:*He was verifiably born in NYC (although there was argument as to where, I believe it was verified that he was actually born in Manhattan - most likely in Harlem, but raised in Brooklyn until the family moved). This established his ''birthplace'' as NYC.
:*The arguments about ''origin'' were largely focused on where his professional career started. I'm not aware of anything indicating his professional career beginning in MD, though he went to school there for years; apparently someone else thinks differently. If whatever he did in high school in MD counts as part of his "professional career", then I'm not sure how his work in the acting troupe in NYC at a very young age was discounted.
:*There were also arguments indicating he "claimed" Los Angeles, and therefore L.A. should be listed as his ''origin''. IIRC these arguments were dismantled fairly quickly.
:*AFAIK his professional career began in Oakland, CA, when he started out as a backup dancer for Digital Underground. If ''origin'' relates to the origin of his professional career, then it should probably be indicated as Oakland, CA. I would also recommend changing the "origin" label to something more descriptive that indicates it's a "professional origin" as opposed to the ambiguous "origin".
As it stands now the ''origin'' appears to be a shortlist of places he happened to live at during various periods of his life. [[User:SqlPac|SqlPac]] ([[User talk:SqlPac|talk]]) 03:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks for the clarification. I'm going to remove Baltimore if it hasn't been done already. [[User:Tiger Khan|Tiger Khan]] ([[User talk:Tiger Khan|talk]]) 13:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

:::[http://www.thuglifearmy.com/news/?id=24 In Marin City...I bumped into...Grag Jacobs aka Shock G and he hooked me up with Didgital Underground] -Pac (pretty much puts this one to rest). -[[User:Wakamusha|Wakamusha]] ([[User talk:Wakamusha|talk]]) 01:27, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

::::It still doesn't define "origin". If "origin" is defined by the start of the professional career, this quote indicates that the start of the professional career is defined by the point in the Universe at which you happened to bump into someone who "hooked you up". What about the people you bump into who hook you up with the people who hook you up? If Tupac had happened to run into Shock G for the very first time on a plane over Idaho would that make his origin "10,000 feet above Boise"? That's pretty unsatisfying. If you're going to cite origin as the beginning of a personal career, something more solid like the location at which the person signed their contract, or maybe even where they gave their first public performance under a professional contract (although that could end up being a lot different from whatever is being slammed into "origin" in other cases), would be more concrete and a lot more satisfactory. OTOH why is there even an "origin" on here? It seems completely unnecessary; do a lot of other templates use "origin" in addition to "birthplace" when referring to the subject of the article? [[User:SqlPac|SqlPac]] ([[User talk:SqlPac|talk]]) 16:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::I concur that it's a weird category to have. Anyone opposed to deleting the label altogether? [[User:Tiger Khan|Tiger Khan]] ([[User talk:Tiger Khan|talk]]) 02:23, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::I agree we should get rid of "origin" for three reasons: (1) "origin" in this context isn't well defined at all (as evidenced by all the strange things people put in there), (2) "origin" doesn't add any value to the article, and (3) the inclusion of "origin" in the summary box is confusing at best. [[User:SqlPac|SqlPac]] ([[User talk:SqlPac|talk]]) 21:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I didnt mean "origin" as meaning where he got signed, or where he met Shock G, but where he was LIVING when all of this happened. Its splitting hairs, I know. But definitely either Marin City or Oakland should be put as origin (he lived in Marin, but Digital Underground was an Oakland-based hip-hop group). Most artists who have a different origin than their birthplace have it listed in their article, and this one should be no different.
:::::::Examples of articles with separate origins are [[Ludacris]] and [[Kanye West]]. -[[User:Wakamusha|Wakamusha]] ([[User talk:Wakamusha|talk]]) 20:22, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::::In the example of [[Ludacris]], Atlanta was where he recorded, released, and sold his first album (out of the trunk of his car). It's also where he first signed with a label. It's not a matter of splitting hairs, but rather determining what exactly an "origin" is for an artist. As you mentioned, if Tupac's "origin" is to be meaningful to anyone then it needs to be set based on the same criteria as any other artist. So the question still stands, what is an "origin" in relation to an artist? [[User:SqlPac|SqlPac]] ([[User talk:SqlPac|talk]]) 20:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't get it, weren't there ever any controversy of him being born in the East Coast, but representing West Side?-[[User:SCB &#39;92|SCB &#39;92]] ([[User talk:SCB &#39;92|talk]]) 19:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:There was and there wasn't. Thats why it is helpful to list an origin, to establish him as a west coast rapper. The biggest difference between east coast and west coast hip-hop is production, and most of his beats were layed down by west coast producers. [[User:Wakamusha|Wakamusha]] ([[User talk:Wakamusha|talk]]) 11:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

::If "origin" is just there to establish a rap artist's "regional style" (e.g., "West Coast", "East Coast", "Midwest", "Dirty South", etc.), I would recommend replacing it completely with "regional style" or something similar. In Tupac's case it would be "Regional Style: West Coast". Why confuse people with an ill-defined concept like "origin", when its only purpose is to imply something that is actually well-defined? In other words, why put up something ambiguous just to imply something else that is far less ambiguous? [[User:SqlPac|SqlPac]] ([[User talk:SqlPac|talk]]) 21:09, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

:::If origin is to be included, Marin City works. In "Resurrection" it was stated that Pac was riding over the Golden Gate Bridge back to Marin the first time "Same Song" was played on the radio. Origins exist in many more similar articles ([[Eminem]], [[Dr. Dre]], [[Jadakiss]], [[DMX]]...) where different birthplaces are listed. Note that all the origins include where all these artists lived when they were SIGNED (Eminem born in Missouri, origin Detroit. Dre born in LA, origin Compton. Both DMX and Jadakiss lived in Yonkers when signed. Neither was born there, and both were signed by labels based out of NYC, Ruff Ryders and Bad Boy). In articles such as [[Snoop Dogg]] or [[Ice Cube]] where the origin happens to be the same as the birthplace, origin is still listed, with only the birthdate listed next to "born" (Cube's says L.A., where he was born and raised, despite representing Compton for the beginning of his career, and Snoop, born and raised in LBC, has that listed, not L.A. where Death Row is). Pac lived in Marin when he was signed, discovered, recorded his first song, and when he received his first movie role. Now since we seem to have split into two separate discussions reguarding origin (to change it or to trash it) I cant see why it would state anything besides Marin, and I cant see not including it since one is listed in just about every hip-hop article already. [[User:Wakamusha|Wakamusha]] ([[User talk:Wakamusha|talk]]) 01:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

::::So "origin" is equivalent to "where the artists lived when they were 'SIGNED'". That's a reasonable definition. It might need to be further narrowed down a teeny tiny bit more though. By signed we are talking signing a contract with any old label (local, national, international) or just a "major" label? What about artists who put out music and records independently prior to signing with a label? Those obviously don't count toward the "origin" by this definition. This is fine for an artist like Pac who was "signed, discovered, recorded his first song, and received his first movie role" all while living in the same place, but what about artists who start somewhere and then move to a new city or town after signing? This is more for general information and guidance on the "rule"; I think using Marin for Pac's "origin" is fine as long as there's a logical and consistent reason to choose Marin. Thanks. [[User:SqlPac|SqlPac]] ([[User talk:SqlPac|talk]]) 00:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

==Requested move==
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:''The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. ''

The result of the debate was '''no move''' - non admin closure. <small>[[User:Udonknome|<font color="green">'''Do U(knome)?'''</font>]]</small> <sup>[[Special:Random|<font color="red">yes...</font>]]</sup>|<sub>[[User talk:Udonknome|<font color="blue">or no</font>]]</sub> 00:22, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

[[Tupac Shakur]] → [[2Pac]] — Move to '''2Pac''' per [[WP:NCP]], which states ''the name of an article should be "the most common name of a person or thing that does not conflict with the names of other people or things".'' 2Pac is clearly Shakur's most common name and it doesn't conflict with any other page since it already redirects to here. Two years ago there was a [[Talk:Tupac Shakur/Archive 3#Requested move|move discussion]] that had some ridiculous arguments against the move (''"real name"'') that I hope are not repeated in this discussion. <small>[[User:Udonknome|<font color="green">'''Do U(knome)?'''</font>]]</small> <sup>[[Special:Random|<font color="red">yes...</font>]]</sup>|<sub>[[User talk:Udonknome|<font color="blue">or no</font>]]</sub> 14:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

===Survey===
:''Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with'' <code><nowiki>*'''Support'''</nowiki></code> ''or'' <code><nowiki>*'''Oppose'''</nowiki></code>'', then sign your comment with'' <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>''. Since [[Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion|polling is not a substitute for discussion]], please explain your reasons, taking into account [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions|Wikipedia's naming conventions]].''

*'''Oppose''' 2Pac was a stage name. No evidence is given that it is more commonly used name for him. All the references I recall seeing in mainstream media use "Tupac Shakur". [[User:Bkonrad|older]] ≠ [[User talk:Bkonrad|wiser]] 14:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Oppose''' apparent official bio [http://www.2paclegacy.com/images/assets/bio_afeni_shakur/Tupac_Shakur_Biography.pdf] strictly uses 'Tupac' in the text. [[User:Ripe|Ripe]] ([[User talk:Ripe|talk]]) 20:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Oppose''' "2pac" is no longer the most common way he is referred to. It was while he was alive, but it appears that "Tupac" is now. [[Special:Contributions/70.51.8.231|70.51.8.231]] ([[User talk:70.51.8.231|talk]]) 05:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Oppose''' In movies, he is credited at "Tupac Shakur". [[User:Wakamusha|Wakamusha]] ([[User talk:Wakamusha|talk]]) 01:56, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

* Give some evidence of the relative usage of the two names, and prove what is more common rather than stating it. [[User:Knepflerle|Knepflerle]] ([[User talk:Knepflerle|talk]]) 23:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

*I'm opposing my own nomination, as I clearly made a mistake by assuming it was common sense that Tupac Shakur is better known as 2Pac, when it is actually the opposite. <small>[[User:Udonknome|<font color="green">'''Do U(knome)?'''</font>]]</small> <sup>[[Special:Random|<font color="red">yes...</font>]]</sup>|<sub>[[User talk:Udonknome|<font color="blue">or no</font>]]</sub> 00:22, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

===Discussion===
:''Any additional comments:''

:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div><!-- Template:pollbottom -->

== Genre ==

"Hip hop" is too generic. I suggest listing Pac's genre in the infobox as "[[Gangsta rap]], [[West Coast hip hop]], [[Political rap]], [[G-Funk]]". Would make more sense. [[User:Netrat|Netrat]] ([[User talk:Netrat|talk]]) 00:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:No it wouldn't, see [[Template:Infobox musical artist#Genre]]. That should clear things up. [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] <small>([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]])</small> 00:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
== Bot report : Found duplicate references ! ==
In [http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?useskin=monobook&title=Tupac_Shakur&redirect=no&oldid=230443269 the last revision I edited], I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
* "m dyson holler" :
** <nowiki>Dyson, M. ''Holler If You Hear Me: Searching for Tupac Shakur''. BasicCivitas Books. 2001.</nowiki>
** <nowiki>Dyson, M. "Holler If You Hear Me". [[Harvard University]]. 2003.</nowiki>
[[User:DumZiBoT|DumZiBoT]] ([[User talk:DumZiBoT|talk]]) 06:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


== East harlem ==

It is put as [[Spanish Harlem|East]] and [[Harlem]]. He was born in east/spanish harlem/puerto rican harlem and has nothing to do with harlem/central harlem/black harlem..... Unlock and change it please. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.23.226.63|70.23.226.63]] ([[User talk:70.23.226.63|talk]]) 23:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Category:American sex offenders ==

I think this category should be removed, since his case was later appealed. [[User:Wakamusha|Wakamusha]] ([[User talk:Wakamusha|talk]]) 23:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:The rape case was appealed, but he was still convicted for sexual abuse. If memory serves, I believe it was three to four years in a correctional facility. [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] <small>([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]])</small> 23:59, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
::Right, but if his case was appealed, Pac would no longer be a registered sex offender under [[Megan's Law]]. [[User:Wakamusha|Wakamusha]] ([[User talk:Wakamusha|talk]]) 20:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm sure it's still on his [[criminal record]], no reason to think that it's "outdated". He fits in the category. If not, why did he go to jail? [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] <small>([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]])</small> 20:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
::::He spent 11 months in jail on an 18-54 month sentence and was "released on bail, pending appeal." His case was successfuly appealed. Maybe it's time we take him off a category which only lists 37 articles, mostly serial killers and discraced politicians. [[User:Wakamusha|Wakamusha]] ([[User talk:Wakamusha|talk]]) 23:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I'm starting to see what you mean. But how does [[:Category:American criminals]] sound? [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] <small>([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]])</small> 23:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Better, seeing as he had multiple criminal charges against him. It doesn't make sense to highlight the sex offense when it was appealed and also accompanied by several conspiracy theories (government setup, set up by Haitian Jack, or maybe she just lied). [[User:Wakamusha|Wakamusha]] ([[User talk:Wakamusha|talk]]) 20:14, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yes. It was a good idea to categorize him on all criminal accounts. [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] <small>([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]])</small> 20:48, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== shukur ==

the things which a lot people do not put i them concederation tha may be tu pac shukur murder had ben totaly politecal murder. . but it had been put in gang form .
cause the issues wiche mr. shkur talked about was so sinctive & built the movemen that cuold affict the youth & adelsensse comunity worldwide & that a ting some people want it to be shut down<nowiki><nowiki>Insert non-formatted text here</nowiki></nowiki> <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/41.209.114.243|41.209.114.243]] ([[User talk:41.209.114.243|talk]]) 08:23, 27 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Legal issues, ballistics from "tupac and entourage's guns" ==

there is a reference here to a newspaper article that says the ballistics have been revealed that proved the bullets were not from tupac or any of his posse's guns, yet there is no link to the reference and i've searched the internet and all i find is more sites using this reference yet no real article. verification anyone? <span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/38.98.215.235|38.98.215.235]] ([[User talk:38.98.215.235|talk]]) 13:16, 14 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== November 1994 shooting ==

haven't found any good references, but this says http://www.answers.com/topic/tupac-shakur the shooting happened the day after the verdict, while this page says the day before, and they are completely different verdict/sentencing dates? nov 30th 94 and feb. 7th 95 i believe.. <span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/38.98.215.235|38.98.215.235]] ([[User talk:38.98.215.235|talk]]) 13:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== BMW 750i sedan ==
In the article it states that he was shot in an BMW 750i. However, I've seen other pics of said vehicle and am quite positive it's a 750iL (long-wheel base). Changed it to 750iL. [[User:Paulmer2003|Paulmer2003]] ([[User talk:Paulmer2003|talk]]) 02:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

== Tupac and Thuggee? ==

There are various sources which tend to imply some link between the original Hindu [[Thuggee]] concept and Tupac Shakur's "Thug Life",[http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9907E2D9123EF930A15756C0A96F958260] but finding an outright statement of this is another matter. Did Shakur explicitly reference Kali or offer parallels to resistance of the Hindu caste system, for example? [[User:Wnt|Wnt]] ([[User talk:Wnt|talk]]) 07:05, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

== October 1993 Atlanta shooting ==

The referenced NYTimes article doesn't state that the officers were intoxicated or had weapons from an evidence locker, and neither does anything else I can find online, so I've removed that for now, but if anyone can find a solid source for that, please put it back in with a citation! I've also found claims online that Mark Whitwell left his job with the police seven months later, which if true is definitely relevant here, but can't find a reliable source for that, either. [[User:Electronwill|Electronwill]] ([[User talk:Electronwill|talk]]) 21:50, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

== Album 'Sunset Boulevard' is missing from this article ==

I remember mention of this important compilation a few weeks ago here, all mention of it and references to the article on this album compilation of 2005 are missing. Shouldn't this be included? Thank you!

Karen <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Karrenola|Karrenola]] ([[User talk:Karrenola|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Karrenola|contribs]]) 13:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Name??? ==

Why isn't his birth name Lesane Crooks listed? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ThePistol|ThePistol]] ([[User talk:ThePistol|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ThePistol|contribs]]) 18:07, 6 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Movies Shakur Was Alleged To A Have Read For ==

according to a well known 2pac fansite, "Tupac was planned to act in the movies Cool Runnings, Higher Learning, Menace II Society and How To Be A Player".

this is from http://www.numberonestars.com/musiclegends/2pacfacts.htm

i have also heard he read the script for forrest gump's Bubba.

Menace II Society incident is already adresses to on wiki page
so is higher learnings

can anybody find more valid citations for the above in addition to the fansite source?

thanks

04dejand <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:04dejand|04dejand]] ([[User talk:04dejand|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/04dejand|contribs]]) 21:52, 27 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== WHO IS IN CONTROL OF THIS PAGE? ==

Why isn't Tupac's birth name listed as Lesane Parish Crooks?
Why doesn't the page say he was raised in Brooklyn?
Why is there not a section about the famous women he dated?
Why does the page start with information not relevant to his murder such as a rape case and other legal cases. Should this not be listed further down?
Why is he not listed as the best rapper ever anymore?
Where is the section about his father?

This page should be edited by fans and Tupac experts. The fact that you seem to ignore alot of the questions on here suggest an arrogance.

Could you please get back to me and let me know what your policies are for controlling this page. I would like to spend some time editing it and I do not want somebody else to delete my contributions because it's not what they want,. This is about Tupac and whoever you are that is controlling the page, the way it is written you do not seem to like Pac very much.

== WHO IS IN CONTROL OF THIS PAGE? ==

Why isn't Tupac's birth name listed as Lesane Parish Crooks?
Why doesn't the page say he was raised in Brooklyn?
Why is there not a section about the famous women he dated?
Why does the page start with information not relevant to his murder such as a rape case and other legal cases. Should this not be listed further down?
Why is he not listed as the best rapper ever anymore?
Where is the section about his father?

This page should be edited by fans and Tupac experts. The fact that you seem to ignore alot of the questions on here suggest an arrogance.

Could you please get back to me and let me know what your policies are for controlling this page. I would like to spend some time editing it and I do not want somebody else to delete my contributions because it's not what they want,. This is about Tupac and whoever you are that is controlling the page, the way it is written you do not seem to like Pac very much.[[User:Ms Scarlett Dracula|Ms Scarlett Dracula]] ([[User talk:Ms Scarlett Dracula|talk]]) 20:29, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== MARK WHITNALL ==

And yes, I am a true Tupac fan and Mark Whitnall did leave his job with the police just after. He appears himself in the documentary BIGGIE & TUPAC by Nick Broomfield. Are you going to update this information now that you have proof? Probably not because you cannot find it on the precious internet. Why don't you try to research elswhere instead of being lazy. You have deleted some of my contributions and I would like to know why? When are you going to change the birth name?[[User:Ms Scarlett Dracula|Ms Scarlett Dracula]] ([[User talk:Ms Scarlett Dracula|talk]]) 20:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:Your claims are not proof. See [[WP:RS]]. <font family="Arial">[[User:NurseryRhyme|<span style="color:dark blue">Little Red Riding Hood</span>]]''[[User talk:NurseryRhyme|<span style="color:dark blue">talk</span>]]''</font> 20:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

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