Talk:Slavery

Grammar correction required

At the end of the Asi, in the History section, there is a sentence that says;

The Siamese military campaigns had been transformed into a slave-hunting raids on a large scale.

it should read;

The Siamese military campaigns had been transformed into slave-hunting raids on a large scale.

but I can't edit as the article is semi protected.

It still doesn't scan but at least it won't sit there like a massive grammar pustule, torturing my eyes.

Can someone do the honors please? Ta 62.255.248.225 (talk) 13:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Someone already had, but it was still a poor sentence. I refocused to the particulars of its reference, leaving others to grapple with whether it serves the text. — MaxEnt 01:17, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Do we need a section 'Consequences' i.e. what happened to the slaves and where have slaves been

Hi,

I don't see the mentioned points in detail on this section in spite of the fact that the page is on Slavery.

Suggesting here that the page should have more info. on what happened to slaves, their religions/class, social structures within slaves, their lineage, effects on others because of slavery such as wars by an army of slaves, etc. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 17:24, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Well I guess there are no answers from people. I must add here, 'going tangentially', that when a victor shits all over the place, it smells roses. I guess slaves writing on Slavery would disturb 'social order' on global scale or something along similar lines, but these can be termed as 'my personal ramblings'. ..असक्तः सततं कार्य कर्म समाचर | असक्तः हि आचरन् कर्म.. Humour Thisthat2011 06:55, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea, especially when so much happened to them even today we can see that--Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ (talk) 07:58, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Racism

It seems impossible that such an article can be considered complete without mention of racial or ethnic markers in facilitating the social divide. Clearly in Lincoln's America, the return of escaped slaves from the north to the south was predicated, at least in part, on racial distinction and laws far from colourblind (even in abolitionist northern states) which prevented whites from testifying on behalf of a freed person of black ancestry, so that even free men under American law on American soil were often recaptured by unethical bounty hunters (as per "Team of Rivals" which I just finished reading). I would also find the Economics section more edifying to see a section discussing the effectiveness of falling back to class distinction where ethnic discrimination is difficult or uncertain. — MaxEnt 01:33, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead and create it, but rarely have i seen class come above race when it comes to slavery--Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ (talk) 08:27, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Adding info to "other uses of term"

Should we add debt slavery as another use of the term under either "Many anarchists,..." section or in the "In Christianity,..." section?

It could go under "Many anarchists,..." section because many have called the [economic coercion] by banks, marketers, and national [central banks] to be a new type of slavery. As Central Banks inflate the economy in order to grow the economy, it forces the poor to take out debt or future earnings to have enough present money to keep pace with inflationary pressures.

Some evidence for this concept are:

Debt is Slavery by Michael Mihalik

"Almighty Debt" by Soledad O'Brien

Money as Debt by Paul Grignon

“Money is a new form of slavery, and distinguishable from the old simply by the fact that it is impersonal, there is no human relation between master and slave.” ~ Leo Tolstoy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eric731 (talk • contribs) 09:46, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

OR

Debt slavery could go under the "In Christianity,..." section because the Bible says that:

"The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is slave to the lender." - Proverbs 22:7 This implies that the lender can rule over the borrower.

"For the Lord your God will bless you as He has promised you, and you will lend to many nations, but you will not borrow; and you will rule over many nations, but they will not rule over you." Deuteronomy 15:6 This implies that the lender can rule over the borrower.

FINALLY,

A citation is needed in the Other use of the term section in the Christianity secion that a person is in slave to sin. That idea comes from John 8:34:

"Jesus answered them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin." - John 8:34

--Eric731 (talk) 00:44, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

See also Romans 6.

-- Anonymous — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.217.121.55 (talk) 23:40, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

American bias

Most of what is written about the modern era is related to black slavery in USA. There HAD BEEN white slaves in Europe. The article does not sufficiently cover the point when the slavery of non-blacks declined. From what is written here, one may concluded that Europeans did not enslave each other after the late Middle Ages, yet William Blake's 'The Little Chimney-Sweeper' testifies that children had been sold by their parents as late as in the 18th century.188.123.240.127 (talk) 19:04, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

I dont see any bias, I think the representation on this site represents the reality of African-Americans and other African communities who were enslaved. i,e, the overwhelming majority. I dont know how a few white slaves in Europe can have equal space considering the history of African enslavement.--Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ (talk) 19:32, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Etymology section needs correction

The English word slave derives through Old French sclave <- Medieval Latin sclavus <- Byzantine Greek σκλάβος.

There are debates on from what the latter word derives. Some etymologists, pointing to similarities in usage of wealh in Old English, originally meaning “Celt” (and origin of Welsh), which was extended to “slave”, argue that the origin of σκλάβος refers to Slavs (словѣнинъ, словѣне), who were often enslaved during the early Middle Ages.

Another angle states that the word σκλάβος is a homonym of the Greek verb skyleúo, meaning «to get the spoils of war», first person singular of which is skyláo.

Barsik (talk) 11:02, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Slavery Report, need info! please help!

I have a slavery report to do in socail studies class and don't know much about this subject. May you please just tell me any info you may know about slavery from a long time ago... I'd really appreciate it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.20.77 (talk) 02:31, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but wikipedia isn't a homework help site. The article should have more than enough information. Dr. Whooves (talk) 02:52, 30 September 2011 (UTC)