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Yes, someone who can verify and edit should do so. Poseidon is not the father of Atlas (as in carrying the Earth on his back) but rather the mortal man named Atlas who was supposedly the elder of the first set of twins with Cleito and later the King of Atlantis <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.170.249.126|173.170.249.126]] ([[User talk:173.170.249.126|talk]]) 02:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Yes, someone who can verify and edit should do so. Poseidon is not the father of Atlas (as in carrying the Earth on his back) but rather the mortal man named Atlas who was supposedly the elder of the first set of twins with Cleito and later the King of Atlantis <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.170.249.126|173.170.249.126]] ([[User talk:173.170.249.126|talk]]) 02:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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that "husband also the third translation of the ancient Greek name "Poseidon" ? |
that "husband also the third translation of the ancient Greek name "Poseidon" ? |
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However, I would be very interested in how you got this meaning out of the gods´ name. thnx (anon.) <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:80.142.167.190|80.142.167.190]] ([[User talk:80.142.167.190|talk]] • |
However, I would be very interested in how you got this meaning out of the gods´ name. thnx (anon.) <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:80.142.167.190|80.142.167.190]] ([[User talk:80.142.167.190|talk]] • |
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New Person: Posis (the -is the functional inflection part) is ancient Greek for husband. Gaia is more commonly just gā in ancient Greek which must somehow then be related to Dā). Also "poseidon" is spelled "P-O- |
New Person: Posis (the -is the functional inflection part) is ancient Greek for husband. Gaia is more commonly just gā in ancient Greek which must somehow then be related to Dā). Also "poseidon" is spelled "P-O-o-p" with one I according to my lexicons. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:140.180.150.91|140.180.150.91]] ([[User talk:140.180.150.91|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/140.180.150.91|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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:I don't speak ancient Greek, but I was taught in a mythology class that "Poseidon" means "husband of Da/De", Da/De being another name for Gaea and the derivation of De-meter. -- [[User:Zoe|Zoe]] |
:I don't speak ancient Greek, but I was taught in a mythology class that "Poseidon" means "husband of Da/De", Da/De being another name for Gaea and the derivation of De-meter. -- [[User:Zoe|Zoe]] |
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Caution: This article is under constant attack. Please do not edit vandalized versions without assessing recent changes. Thank you. --Wetman 14:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Reference to son Atlas
It should be noted that this refers to the mortal Atlas and not Atlas the god (Titan) who holds up the heavens. Jayhayman (talk) 20:53, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes, someone who can verify and edit should do so. Poseidon is not the father of Atlas (as in carrying the Earth on his back) but rather the mortal man named Atlas who was supposedly the elder of the first set of twins with Cleito and later the King of Atlantis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.170.249.126 (talk) 02:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
poop.
that "husband also the third translation of the ancient Greek name "Poseidon" ?
However, I would be very interested in how you got this meaning out of the gods´ name. thnx (anon.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.142.167.190 (talk •
New Person: Posis (the -is the functional inflection part) is ancient Greek for husband. Gaia is more commonly just gā in ancient Greek which must somehow then be related to Dā). Also "poseidon" is spelled "P-O-o-p" with one I according to my lexicons. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 140.180.150.91 (talk • contribs) .
- I don't speak ancient Greek, but I was taught in a mythology class that "Poseidon" means "husband of Da/De", Da/De being another name for Gaea and the derivation of De-meter. -- Zoe
- That isn't terribly likely, according to comparative linguistics. The most plausible theory is the one given in the text. ~~~~ 02:15, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
why is the claim of herodotus that, poseidon is a berber god from origin ,is delited ?Aziri 11:47, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Its a good claim, but if true, it wouldn't be easy to identify, as the name would likely have changed. Poseidon appears to be originally a descriptive title rather than his name as such, and much of Poseidon's original nature was lost by his conversion into a sea god, so it is difficult to extract the originals. Also, it isn't very clear why Berber gods would have been adopted into Greek mythology at such an early point. ~~~~ 02:15, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Didn't belong in the front-matter. Try putting it under ==Prehistory==. Bacchiad 22:03, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Anything Herodotus says about the origin of Poseidon is worth putting in the article. --Wetman 23:19, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Arion links to a poet, not a horse- Create a stub article for the horse. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.225.142.197 (talk • contribs) .
Why is the Posiedon page not open for editing from new users? What if some college proffesor who MAJORS in this kind of stuff has just made an account and he finds a lot of incorrect information on the page? Is there anything that he can actually do? -Athos64
The "Neptune" link here is to the page for the planet; there seems to be no entry for the Roman god. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.122.198.80 (talk • contribs) .
- An excellent idea! Neptune (mythology) now awaits. --Wetman 01:40, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
"Distribution mother"
Why is this unusual connection, so prominently displayed here and from here throughout the Web, offered without any source? Who is making this "distribution-mother" connection? Can we add something to a "References" section covering this? --Wetman 23:19, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
- Your Neptune (mythology) is waiting at the curb, sir! Here are the keys!--Wetman 01:51, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
disambiguation
since neptune redirects here, I included the Neptune disambiguation page at the top as well as the poseidon one.--Jackyd101 05:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- I can't believe these two seperate gods are treated as one on this psychopedia. They have different origins as anyone passed high school can see. For example this merger actually hinders anyone to contribute information about the etymology of the name Neptune (often considered to be from Indo-European *nepōts "nephew") when the title up top says Poseidon (whose etymology and religious origins are quite different).
- Plus, there's the simple logistics of this: Average people intending to click on Neptune get a big surprise when they keep on ending up in Poseidon. ??? I just don't understand why this merger was agreed upon and it will only lead to further confusion and misinformation about this subject.
- The Interpretatio graeca is not a real construct. It was invented by early peoples to find greater meaning in foreign religions. Just because Neptune and Poseidon were associated together doesn't mean that they should be considered equivalent on Wikipedia. If we follow this perverted trend to its extreme, we may as well merge Ra with Apollo and start speaking about all ancient religions solely through the narrow perspective of the Ancient Greeks! --Glengordon01 03:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, but of course, the way to solve this conundrum is to create a Neptune article. There isn't much about Neptune on this page, but I will start an article with what exists, and I hope you add what you know. Lesgles (talk) 01:30, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
His "sister" Demeter
I deleted this aspect of Olympian Poseidon, which is not relevant to this archaic fragment of myth, not any more than his later role as sea-god would have been here. I hope everyone understands that jumbling together all the aspects of a Greek god over a thousand-year career results in the pot-pourri presentation of a Thomas Bulfinch. --Wetman 11:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Dividing up the universe
The article claims, quite confidently, that Posiedon recieved the sea, Hades the underworld, and Zeus both the sky and the earth. That last part isn't really very consistent with most roots of the myth. In Homeric myth (the Illiad in particular) it states that Posiedon recieved the sea, Hades the underworld, Zeus the sky, and Olympus and the Earth remained common, neutral ground for all the gods. Similarly in Homeric myth, Posiedon is not just attributed with the sea, but horses and earthquakes aswell (Poseidon being most commonly reffered to as "the earth shaker"), both of which are thoroughly landed. I'm not claiming that Poseidon was the god of the earth as opposed to Zeus, neccesarily (the different gods no doubt represented different things to different people at different times); just that it's ambiguos enough that it shouldn't be int he article. I'll leave this up here for debate for a while before i make any moves to change it 82.69.37.32 22:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Protection
Is there any way we can get this page protected from edits by anon users? The vandalism is getting a little out of control. --Maelnuneb (Talk) 16:26, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Category:Earth gods
I put Poseidon into this category as he is the god of earthquakes, and I meant that category (which I created) to cover such gods as well as earth gods like Geb. T@nn 15:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Etymology
"The name seems to rather transparently stem from Greek pósis "lord, husband" and Indo-European *don "flowing water". This has been inserted by an etymology fan who never offers a source. Has this etymology been published and defended anywhere? --Wetman 21:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC) But, posiedon may come from another wour you halfwit! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.189.4.166 (talk) 21:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
An "Illyrian" parallel?
Since Illyrian mythology is as lost as Illyrian languages, and even the names of "gods" are conjecture, and since this "Redo" is unsourced, I've moved the following here:
- "A cave-dwelling Redo[citation needed] in Illyrian mythology is linked to Poseidon by Albanian writers. (Note:Redon, Rodon, Redo do not appear in any inscription.)--Wetman 00:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
poseiden the god of WATER
known as Neptune,Poseidon has had a movie aboiut water and some ship sinking about him!!!
Vandalism
The last 59 edits have produced these changes. A great deal of adult effort is constantly expended in keeping this article from collapsing under juvenile attack. Semi-protection might be a courteous "thank you" for their watchfulness (I am one among many.)--Wetman (talk) 22:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you! I actually put this page up for semi-protection about a week and a half ago, but apparently, there "was not enough vandal activity to justify semi-protection at this time". Maybe if it is re-nominated, it will go through this time. Erik the Red 2 (Ave Caesar) 23:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Odd lifestyle choice
- My memory is temporarily refreshed. But not the end of the story, I added the saving part to the article. Thanks. Saintrain (talk) 20:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
P.s. There seems to be a difference in the, ummm, interpretation of the coupling between Medusa and Poseidon (the difference between "courted" and "made love to" v "raped on the floor"). I expect my Hamilton's from high school was a little soft in such subjects, but there is the scent of revisionism in the ether. Do you have a better source?
- In retelling myth "in our own words", it's best to soft-pedal "our own words" and trim close to the written sources.--Wetman (talk) 22:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Will someone Please delete the opening sentence saying "poop" it is very juvenile and should not be on here. Please.
- Done. Thanks for noticing ;) BlackPearl14[talkies!•contribs!] 04:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Extreme Romanisation of a Greek subject
Someone mistakenly decided to name all images of statues (except the one from Copenhagen) "Neptune".. I can see why when it comes to countries once under Roman rule or when the actual statue in fact is called by that name, but the statue in Gothenburg is named after the GREEK god, NOT Neptune. Please change it to POSEIDON and stop the auto-latinisation of Greek mythology!
Never mind - I did it myself.. didn´t know I was an "established user" myself LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.195.52.10 (talk) 23:13, 15 December 2008 (UTC) Appledelphy (talk) 21:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Relocation of Geneology
Hey guys, does anyone disagree that the geneaology of Poseidon should be moved to the bottom of the page? Calamitas-92 (talk) 05:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Poseida
Concerning the legends about Atlantis, there is an island called Poseida that is mentioned in the writings of Edgar Cayce, which would have supposedly been a remnant island before the destruction of the ancient civilization. It would be interesting if any etymological relationship could be found between Poseida and Poseidon, given that the words are constructed in a very similar way. ADM (talk) 17:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
- Cayce's invention is transparent to the rest of us. No reason to note it here anymore than "Poseidon's Fish & Chips" etc.--Wetman (talk) 18:37, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Sinis
As far as I know, Sinis (or Siris) was son of Polypemon and Sylea. It was Polypemon, not Sinis to be son of Poseidon. Can you check it, please?--Dejudicibus (talk) 15:29, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Monster attacking Troy
It says here that the monster Poseidon sent to attack Troy was killed by Perseus. In all versions of the myth it was in fact Herakles (Hercules) who slew it, and was cheated out of his prize. This led to Hercules and the sons of Aeacus to sack Troy. (The first sack, before the Trojan War) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2fletch (talk • contribs) 23:35, 6 January 2010 (UTC) lykw 9erf eisde d —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.155.216.49 (talk) 23:21, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Poseidaon
Poseidon, Poseidaon, Poseideon, Potidan, Posidan, Potedan, Poseidan in Ancient Greek dialects... Böri (talk) 15:52, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
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