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Errors in the summary of the featured article
he ran to return to parliament. American English. Per MOS:TIES should be BrEng he stood to return to parliament Spicemix (talk) 09:42, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Quite right. Gog the Mild (talk) 09:45, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
The text begins with "The École Polytechnique massacre". If you mouse over that link without clicking, either here or in the article, it says "French-language text". That is wrong. Mousing over normally tells you what article you will get if you click. But clicking the link doesn't give you an article about French-language text, nor does it give you an article written in French.
In edit mode, you'll see this is caused by template:lang, which is used 3 times. According to template:lang#Links, the lang template isn't even working when it's inside a wikilink like that, so you wouldn't lose anything by removing the lang links. The fix suggested at Template:Lang#Links doesn't seem to apply because the examples are entire links in another language, but here the word "massacre" is English. So unless someone has a better idea, I could just remove the lang templates that aren't working anyway. Art LaPella (talk) 07:03, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Or yuo could not. @Art LaPella:, please do not change featured content unilaterally. Paging relevant parties: @FAC coordinators: and @TFA coordinators . SerialNumber54129 10:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just so everyone knows, I have often made minor unilateral changes to featured articles and blurbs without objection. Even when I ask for attention, I don't always get it. In this case I asked, and I'm happy to leave this issue for others. Art LaPella (talk) 18:40, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've changed from '''[[École Polytechnique massacre|{{Lang|fr|École Polytechnique|italic=no}} massacre]]''' to '''{{Lang|fr|[[École Polytechnique massacre]]|italic=no}}''' (thus École Polytechnique massacre to École Polynique massacre) which gets rid of the problem. This is possibly temporarily unless someone finds a better way; as "massacre" is a cognate from the French this isn't problematic, per se. - SchroCat (talk) 10:25, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is a browser problem, not a content one, and that change has introduced an error. "massacre" should not be treated as a French word because, in this instance, it's English. The target article's lead has
'''{{Lang|fr|École Polytechnique|italic=no}} massacre'''
which, being syntactically and grammatically correct, should be used here: École Polytechnique massacre. Bazza 7 (talk) 10:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)- Read the opening comment and come up with something that doesn't cause the problems that began the thread. - SchroCat (talk) 11:14, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- @SchroCat: I did read the comment, and have pointed out already that this is a problem with the reader's browser, not the content. The content generates
<a href="/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre" title="École Polytechnique massacre"><span title="French-language text"><span lang="fr" style="font-style: normal;">École Polytechnique</span></span> massacre</a>
- The browser uses any inner-most "title" attribute to generate a tooltip; so for hovering over
École Polytechnique
that will be French-language text, and for hovering overmassacre
it will be École Polytechnique massacre. - The tooltip functionality is not a part of the code generated. We must not be led into generating inaccurate content purely to overcome the behaviour of certain browsers.
- The simplest solution to satisfy this non-error is to remove the language tag from around the establishment's shortened name which was also its shortened name in Canadian English at the time of the event; so:
'''[[École Polytechnique massacre]]'''
giving École Polytechnique massacre. Bazza 7 (talk) 14:17, 30 November 2024 (UTC)- This is not a “browser problem”. The WHATWG specification of the title attribute says that “The title attribute represents advisory information for the element, such as would be appropriate for a tooltip” and defines an order of precedence for advisory information such that any higher-level elements are ignored. If “French-language text” is not the most relevant advisory information for the text, it should not be in the title attribute. 216.147.127.204 (talk) 03:10, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Read the opening comment and come up with something that doesn't cause the problems that began the thread. - SchroCat (talk) 11:14, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is a browser problem, not a content one, and that change has introduced an error. "massacre" should not be treated as a French word because, in this instance, it's English. The target article's lead has
- Art LaPella, that is Friday's (6 Dec) TFA not Wednesday's? JennyOz (talk) 13:21, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes which is the correct date. Secretlondon (talk) 13:31, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Friday 6 December. - SchroCat (talk) 14:16, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes which is the correct date. Secretlondon (talk) 13:31, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Bazza_7 is correct about this being a browser issue. What should probably be done is to modify the template concerned so that it is possible to supress the title attribute, by writing, say,
''[[École Polytechnique massacre|{{Lang|fr|École Polytechnique|italic=no|title=no}} massacre]]''
; or possibly better still by simply removing the title attribute completely. I have raised this on the template's talk page; see Template talk:Lang#Issue with use in links. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:27, 30 November 2024 (UTC) - Also noting that this is not an issue for users of the WP:Navigation popups tool, so the fix might be better done in whatever (Wikipedia) tool is failing to show the article preview popup. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
Errors with "In the news"
Errors in "Did you know ..."
"that although nobody died in the 1984 Southland floods, about 12,000 sheep perished?" 12,000 sheep literally died. It should say "that although no humans died in the...". 117.194.197.117 (talk) 04:01, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Errors in "On this day"
Errors in the summary of the featured list
Errors in the summary of the featured picture
kin jun oinq
Is that pun intentional?
"Planned Parenthood was conceived 100 years ago" really? Thanks for making my day.--131.156.156.255 (talk) 14:14, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
HM Queen Elizabeth's 90th birthday milestone
I am surprised that the Main Page makes no mention of today's 90th birthday (21st April) of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, who is Head of State of sixteen Commonwealth countries. Clearly the 90th birthday of such an eminent person as Her Majesty deserves a mention, and I am completely perplexed as to why it is not mentioned. Ds1994 (talk) 18:01, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Extraordinary omission, I agree! Has political correctness struck again? Or just editorial myopia? Shurely (sic) we should be told (ed.) --Bermicourt (talk) 18:27, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- It's only not mentioned because you didn't go through the steps to get it mentioned. WP:DYK, WP:OTD, WP:TFA, WP:OTD, and WP:TFP would have ALL been good venues to highlight the event, and yet you did absolutely nothing to prepare for it. You can't blame anyone else for not doing what you couldn't have been bothered to do yourself. In the future, if there is something you'd like to see featured on the main page of Wikipedia in some capacity, do the work necessary to make it so. Don't blame other people for not reading your mind and knowing what you want them to do. WP:SOFIXIT. --Jayron32 18:44, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Well, that's told us then. But it does not excuse the fact that those editors responsible for putting the main page together should have spotted such an eminent birthday on the 21st April. It does Wikipedia no good by its omission, and it certainly does Wikipedia no good for your acerbic and dictatorial admonition Jayron32. Perhaps you should learn some manners before posting such virulent rudeness on here.Ds1994 (talk) 19:12, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Well, lets look at it. Elizabeth II is a FA, but is not eligible to be TFA as it has appeared before. Neither OTD nor ITN usually posts birthdays, nor should they be expected to post an arbitrary number - and no offence, but Elizabeth does not deserve an exception. I am not aware of any featured pictures that could appear as TFP, and likewise, I am not aware of any qualifying articles for a DYK nomination. Resolute 19:23, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- So, you get to rudely barge in and demand that others should have already done some work that you didn't bother to do yourself, but no one is allowed to call you on your rudeness? You do know that no one else at Wikipedia is better than you, right? There is no editorial board, no central decision making process, right? It's a bunch of randos who do whatever they feel is necessary to make the Encyclopedia better on their own free time, and that you have the same rights to make the encyclopedia better on your own time? Demanding that people do work (or worse yet, chastising people for not doing work) that you can't be bothered to do yourself is the height of virulent rudeness. --Jayron32 19:40, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Why do you expect the editors to know everything? Perhaps you should have undertaken the effort to report the event?--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 19:20, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Well, you certainly should have known, as the State of Georgia is named after King George II of Great Britain and Ireland. I suggest you clean out your own cupboard before questioning the integrity of others. This is my last contribution in this matter, as clearly none of you have any respect for Her Majesty The Queen, or the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, or any of the Commonwealth countries of which Her Majesty is Head of State. A truly pathetic omission on the part of Wikipedia, and a truly sad and pathetic response from individuals on this page who should know better, but don't. But then what do you expect from redneck American republicans? Thank you, and good bye.Ds1994 (talk) 21:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
- Cheers mate, from a lovely British editor who disagrees, not all of them are red-necks. Perhaps grow up a little and stop being hysterical and you may be taken more seriously. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:40, 21 April 2016 (UTC)