Talk:List of pin-up artists

Focus?

Currently this is a mix of artists and models - it needs to be sorted! Grutness|^hello? 00:11, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Many of these artists aren't part of the classic Pinup movement... they just create images of sexy/naked women. Some are hardcore fantasy artists that are most likely listed elsewhere. Also, this convention of just tacking a URL after the name seems unique to this page. I'm inclined to remove them all... thoughts? JeffJonez 15:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Should there be so many redlinked artists listed here? Just looking, it seems like 2/3rds of the artists don't have articles, which seems unusual. - JeffJonez (talk) 16:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

it would seem that to be included on this list, one would meed to be discussed in multiple well regarded printed sources as a pin-up artist of note. if everyone with a website or a "art of" book who draws girls should be on the list it would include thousands of names. so i have deleted a few names from the list who are not noteable. also, shouldnt patrick nagel be on this list? Scottfavor

If he's not on the list, you should add him! :) If you haven't I will. - JeffJonez (talk) 14:11, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

If an pinup artist on this list is in Wikipedia, then they're notable. If you think an artist's article isn't notable, list it for deletion explaining why, and then remove them from this list. Fair? - JeffJonez (talk) 14:19, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

as of now it is an incomplete and convoluted mess. anyone can post a wikipedia page and say they are a pin-up artist and that does not make them notable. the name that had me take a closer look at the list was Josh Howard. he is a comic artist not a notable pin-up artist. while someone like Adam Hughes is a actually a notable current pin-up artist, who does comics, and is not included on the list. instead of muddying the waters, i just deleted those who have dubious credentials. i think you could just look at the art of those i omitted and it would be fairly easy to see that they do not rank anywhere near artist like Vargas, Olivia, Elvgren, Buell, etc, and the others that i didn't delete. (and you notice i only suggest one name to be added as Nagel defined an era of the genre, the 80's, and deserves to be ranked amongst truly notable pin-up artists. like i said in the previous comments, listing the ones i deleted leaves this list completely ignoring hundreds of guy who are as good or even much better than those i deleted, yet who are not as "notable" as those i left on the list).

if you do not see it that way, i will defer to your judgement.

Sorting of names

Would anyone approve of sorting this list by family name? What I mean is, make it to where it is surname, first name. With possible exceptions to some names. Maximus23623 (talk) 13:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Color me confused. That's how it *is* currently sorted. Artists are listed by family name, but displayed naturally with given name first. That seems to be the norm here in wikiland. JeffJonez (talk) 20:36, 7 December 2007 (UTC)