Talk:LeBron James

Edit request from 805 BARAJAS 805, 1 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Change his number to six please because he change and Lebron James is a Free Agent right know 805 BARAJAS 805 (talk) 21:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I have removed two duplicate copies of this request. Do you have a link to a reliable source that states this information? Is his status really such that he has cleaned out his locker and is no longer associated with the Cavs? Is his number definitely six? (I don't know basketball, but in football free agents don't have numbers.) --B (talk) 21:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

As requests to edit semi-protected articles must be accompanied by reference(s) to reliable sources, I have cancelled out the above {{editsemiprotected}} template for now; if you can provide a source, please put {{editsemiprotected}} again so that others process the request. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  11:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

regarding the number change: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4958324 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.78.185 (talk) 00:44, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

LeBron has also officially met with the Miami Heat, the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Los Angeles Clippers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.118.83.10 (talk) 14:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I was gonna edit to say he met with the Heat but the Wikinazis won't let me edit. 68.45.109.136 (talk) 18:51, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Who he meets with is irrelevant. He could meet with the Lakers, the Celtics, the Mavs, the Suns, etc. for shits and giggles, but it still would clog up this article. --Muboshgu (talk) 18:55, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

It's protected because all of the IP vandals. If you want to edit the page so badly, register an account or request an edit. Enigma^msg 02:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I've again removed the speculation and put a note. I can find reliable sources for any team that hint at any team (ok, maybe not the Clippers) so let's just wait it out. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:53, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Lock the page

you may want to lock this page before angry cleveland-ers get to vandalize it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.157.238 (talk) 01:34, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

It's already been semi-protected so that unregistered and newly registered editors cannot edit, and that's probably enough. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:35, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

It's actual under level 2 pending changes protection. Even the editors who do edit aren't all showing up publicly. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:40, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Drekryan, 9 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Lebron James' team is now Miami Heat not free agent

Drekryan (talk) 02:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

As explained in the HTML comment in the article, he is not officially part of the Heat until he signs a contract. It has been mentioned in the article that he intends to sign with them. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:28, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit Request

Please change his quote from the announcement. Here are the exact and relevant words:

"This fall I'm going to take my talents to South Beach and join the Miami Heat. ... I feel like it's going to give me the best opportunity to win, and to win for multiple years. ... I want to be able to win championships, and I feel like I can compete down there."

The current quote on the page strings together several quotes taken out of context, has typos, and just generally references things he never really said.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5365761&categoryid=2459788 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kem422 (talk • contribs) 05:32, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

THAT IS TO BE EXPECTED BY THE DUMBASSES WHO RUN THINGS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.77.105.208 (talk) 05:34, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Why is Bosh listed as a Heat but LeBron isn't?

You see he isn't a member of the Heat until he signs a contract. Chris Bosh hasn't signed a contract. The details between the three of their salaries hasn't been worked out. Nor has a potential sign and trade with the Raptors. Wikipedia also listed Amare Stoudemire as a Knick a few days ago before signings could become official. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.106.177.128 (talk) 06:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out; I have fixed Bosh's article. Sometimes things like this happen on an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:35, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

The Decision (LeBron James)

I just noticed this article was created-- should a separate article exist for the special? -- Nomader ^(Talk) 06:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

It's since been redirected to this article. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:34, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Drekryan, 9 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} On the side of the page under Lebron James' picture it where it says number 6. It says he is a free agent this should be changed to Miami Heat this is official according to this quote "Fans in Miami took to the streets after hearing the news that NBA megastar LeBron James had decided to leave Cleveland and play for the Miami Heat. (The Associated Press)" from http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2010/07/09/VI2010070901475.html

Drekryan (talk) 16:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

It's not official until he signs a contract. There's going to be some juggling of numbers that has to be taken care of to fit the three of them under the cap. --Muboshgu (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Backlash

I see a bit of the backlash against LeBron making its way into the article. I think it absolutely belongs in this article, but we should think of a systematic way to include it. It should probably be moved to the "Public Image" section, for starters. Maybe the Gilbert letter could stay in the Bio. Thoughts? --Muboshgu (talk) 20:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Lebron James IS a Miami Heat player

He signed a contract and then was traded to the Miami Heat http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/07/09/lebron.bosh.ap/index.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.13.25.24 (talk) 04:51, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, NOW he is. He wasn't yesterday, he wasn't this morning or this afternoon, but as it says it was done Friday night, that is when he and Bosh became Heat. --Muboshgu (talk) 04:52, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Lebron James was not traded

The last sentence in the first paragraph states that James was the first MVP to be traded since Moses Malone. He was not traded, he is in fact the first MVP to change teams since Moses Malone. "MVP" should probably also be changed to "reigning MVP" to reinforce the fact that this does not include former MVPs who have changed teams such as Shaquille O'Neal and several others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.220.27.5 (talk) 14:03, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Seconded96.251.96.102 (talk) 14:07, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Technicality maybe, but it was a sign and trade deal. It looks like the 'reigning' qualifier would be appropriate, but the statement should probably have a source. --Onorem♠Dil 14:10, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Why not do whats supposed to be done and take the comment out of the article unless you're going to put a motherfucking source in there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesandrippa (talk • contribs)

Because I didn't see it as a controversial statement that needed instant removal per WP:BLP. If someone else wants to remove it as unsourced, I certainly won't edit war over it. --Onorem♠Dil 19:35, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Here is at least one source that mentions the sign and trade. --Floydpink (talk) 14:41, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

I've added a reference and updated that he is the 3rd reigning MVP to switch teams (Wilt being the other)

Bagumba (talk) 05:41, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Liljohniv, 10 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Change the current picture of Lebron James in his Cleveland jersey to a picture of him in a Miami Heat jersey

Liljohniv (talk) 17:53, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Provide a picture of James in a Heat jersey that isn't a copyright violation and it'll be done. --Muboshgu (talk) 17:59, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

 Not done as per Muboshgu. Salvio ( ^{Let's talk 'bout it!}) 19:51, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

ESPN Special

Shoudln't that be under "Public Image"? There's been heavy opinion both ways. Or should we wait until the fervor dies down before putting it on Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atari2 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, if you're gonna have a quote attacking Gibert, isn't it fair to have one supporting Gilbert? Atari2 (talk) 23:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Nobody responded to my "backlash" section above. Maybe we do need to wait for the dust to settle before deciding how to discuss the backlash and how it's hurt his public image. The fact of the matter is we don't know the lasting effects this has on his public image, other than the immediate effects of widespread panning from the media, Cleveland fans burning his jersey, and pretty much anyone except for Miami Heat fans criticizing him for shying away from being the man in Chicago, New York, or Cleveland. --Muboshgu (talk) 00:03, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

The article generically mentioned Stern disapproving of how Lebron handled free agency. It seems fair to add detail about how he failed to notify the "losing" teams. Stern actually pointed this out too http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/18034/david-stern-on-lebron-james-dan-gilbert-and-the-cba, but I used a different source in Adande. Should we also mention that Stern said Gilbert's remarks were "understandable". Just mentioning that Gilbert was fined $100K seems one sided. Bagumba (talk) 06:05, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I inserted the citation to the fine. Period. That's all I intended. There are several billion news articles that can provide the same information (e.g. a fine happened), without going beyond that single fact. I suggest that all you need to do is to insert a sentence, after the fine is reported, along the lines of " Mr. Stern, as well as various sports columnists and fans, either criticized or supported the parties involved in James' decision to leave Cleveland and way in which it was handled. Then add cites to whatever pro and con you want. The point is that this Article is not a news flash; it will be read 10 years from now, so all that the Article needs to do is to present a concise overview and then provide cites to whatever current articles best capture the current views on what just happened. The readers should read the cited material and form their own opinions. My view of writing history is that it should provide a synthesis from a 37,0000 foot vantage point, accompanied by a lot of cites to source materials, and let the reader take it from there. Stwiso (talk) 07:56, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I've just read the recent edits. I am bowing out of this Article, although I wish it well. James will be around a long time and will be, one way or another, a historic NBA figure. Stwiso (talk) 08:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

My man

You need to change his marital status to engaged to Mary Tallchief as of 7/12/2010. They will happily be wed next July 28th 2011. Thank you for editing this for me. You're great.

Love, Brittany Holland and James Van Thof :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lebron14 (talk • contribs) 05:42, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

First off, that needs to be verified by a reliable source. Secondly, we do not allow shared accounts here on Wikipedia, as this breaks our licensing agreement. Please have one person edit with the one account, and the other person create one for his/her own. Regards, –MuZemike 05:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

ADD FOR NBA CAREER/2010/MIAMI HEAT: "THE THREE MIAMIGOS"

First commented under an article by Henry Abbott (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/17867/name-the-crimes-of-lebron-james) by a fan named Omar F. Medina of the USAF stationed in Afghanistan. The Three Miamigos is composed of three NBA players on The Miami Heat roster LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. The name was choosen for Miami's large Latino community and also a film called The Three Amigos; where three actors overcome overwhelming odds against a band of bandits to safely rescue their friends. —Preceding unsigned comment added by El chihuahua 13 (talk • contribs) 06:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. --Muboshgu (talk) 06:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Fix Biography

The second sentence in the first statement is worded incorrectly. "His biological father, Anthony McClelland, was an ex-convict who left Gloria to raise LeBron herself." LeBron was raised by his mother but this sentence implies he was raised by his father, who is apparently female. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flecktonian (talk • contribs) 16:39, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes,please change this.It does state that,by the way it is worded,Lebron's father was a women.--Bellsprout723d — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bellsprout723d (talk • contribs) 03:06, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

This is already fixed.—Chris!_c/t 03:10, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Picture

jayla got a big head jayla got a big head woop woop woop yeaaaaa swagg swaggg swagggg booty booty booty!? Oceansummer87 (talk) 20:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

I'd be surprised if a freely liscenced picture of him in a heat uniform is available yet. You're probably right in that an updated picture will be desirable, but first we need a new one to swap in.--Cube lurker (talk) 21:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Couldn't pictures from the Heat introductions, or from the parade they held afterwards be used under a Promotional Material license? Atari2 (talk) 02:43, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't have a lot of experience in this area but looking at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags I see this line: For an image to be considered "free" under Wikipedia's Image use policy, the license must permit both commercial reuse and derivative works. I don't think those images can be used without the owner giving expanded permission. Again though I'm not an expert in this area, hopefully someone with a bit more experience with images will chime in.--Cube lurker (talk) 12:41, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't have a lot of expertise in this either. I was hoping someone who did could find a picture that could be used to replace the current image. Oceansummer87 (talk) 20:46, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

This may not belong here

but should Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley's recent comments be included in the section about his move to Miami? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JahnTeller07 (talk • contribs) 15:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I think some reference should be made, but as his legacy will play out over the years, probably not too much detail is needed. Does this go under Public Image, or is that limited to his non-basketball image? Bagumba (talk) 16:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

role

I think James should be indicated as "small forward" only, or "small forward/power forward". He played as a shooting guard in his first NBA years, but I don't think SG should be indicated as his secondary role anymore. Cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.34.214.124 (talk) 23:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Never ejected

According to this source : http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=1966 Lebron James has never been ejected in his career. This could fit under the player profile section of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.39.30.26 (talk) 00:25, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that's particularly important. What's the context? Is it supposed to suggest he is even tempered? Favored by the refs? --Muboshgu (talk) 00:59, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I'd think this is the case for the majority of players in the league, so probably not noteworthy enough to include. Miles Blues (talk · contribs) 06:11, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Sbistaff, 29 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

Change picture to Jamesheat.jpg Thank you

Sbistaff (talk) 23:45, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

You took that on your iPhone? I somehow doubt it. I suspect WP:COPYVIO. --Muboshgu (talk) 23:50, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

removed semi-prot template. I also suspect copyvio. I'll start a deletion discussion on Commons and see what happens.--Commander Keane (talk) 00:23, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Coops2517, 14 September 2010

{{edit semi-protected}}

please can i edit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Coops2517 (talk) 19:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: the user was blocked as a WP:VOA Salvio ^{Let's talk 'bout it!} 19:18, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Picture of LeBron with Heat

Shouldn't there be a picture of LeBron James in a Miami Heat uniform? Wayne Olajuwon chat 23:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, if someone could find a free image of LeBron in Heat uniform...—Chris!_c/t 23:32, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Jshootingg, 11 November 2010

{{edit semi-protected}}

put his position known as small forward/shooting guard Jshootingg (talk) 07:45, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 09:17, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit request

{{edit semi-protected}} Hi yeah i think you should change his picture because he isnt in the Cavaliers any more he's in the heat maybe this picture is good enough http://buzzytimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Lebron-James-Miami-Heat-Jersey-510x286.jpg Well hope you change it

66.229.210.216 (talk) 00:53, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: That image is compyrighted and can only be used if released under a free license. See WP:IUP. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 01:09, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Lebron James Small forward/shooting guard  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jshootingg (talk • contribs) 04:02, 13 November 2010 (UTC) 

Lebron James technique

I saw this on South Park, and I saw the advert on youtube, but I can't find an explanation for what it's supposed to be about. Could someone explain? What did he do? What is it based on? J1812 (talk) 13:00, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Not sure the above question is appropriate here. How about THIS:

On September 29, 2010, asked by Soledad O'Brien of CNN if race was a factor in the fallout from The Decision, James said, "I think so, at times. There's always -- you know, a race factor.[122] James had

.... Needs quotes before the [122]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AP888 (talk • contribs) 03:22, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Cavaliers-Heat game of Dec. 2

Wow. I definitely think that there needs to be something about this game in James' article. Cleveland fans were PISSED. They booed him every time he got possession of the ball, and chanted "a**hole" at him more than once (before the game and once in 3rd quarter).74.192.58.206 (talk) 05:48, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Some source are in Further Reading section for now Bagumba (talk) 11:00, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Order

Should the "Off the Court" stuff really be at the top of the article? It seems strange to me, since I haven't seen this on any other page. I don't know if that should be one of the first things someone sees as they scroll down the page. This should be at the bottom if anywhere. 69.246.135.91 (talk) 06:28, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Point guard

There have been a couple of reverts on the fact that James against Minnestota was playing the "role of Magic Johnson" that was a selling point to him by Pat Riley during free agency [1][2] There was a concern that explaining the "Magic Johnson" role was not worth the space.

I believe this is important to retain. The Magic/point guard role was an important selling point to James, and he has been playing a lot at point guard this year. I found additional sources to reinforce these points. I have enhanced the article to explain the free agency pitch to provide background and replaced "role of Magic Johnson" to just be "point guard." The fact that he doesn't want to call himself a point guard is also noteworthy in light of this.

Please enhance the article if the text in this area needs refining, or discuss here if there is still debate as to its relevance. Bagumba (talk) 06:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I didn't mention this in my edit summary, but another problem with the text is that it seems to contradict itself. We suggest that James was sold on the chance to become a point guard, but we also say that he doesn't like when people call him a point guard. It's a bit hard to make sense of that. (Granted, that could be James' own fault—he's been known to contradict himself— but we have to present the information in a way that won't confuse readers.) Zagalejo^^^ 08:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I understand the potential confusion. However, the intent is not to "suggest" but to clearly and neutrally report the facts. Your interpretation is exactly the point of the source, LeBron James: The Reluctant Point Guard

Compare him to Magic Johnson -- just don't call him Magic Johnson. Watch him bring the ball up and get his team into the offense for at least half the game's possessions, just list him at forward on the All-Star ballot. The Miami Heat public relations staff is fully on board. Tuesday night they announced James' 12 assists in the team's latest blowout victory (129-97 over the Minnesota Timberwolves) was the highest in franchise history by a forward.

I dont think we should exclude clear facts just because they dont make sense. To make sense of it without a source would be original research. The reader can fill in the blanks in their head in the meantime. Bagumba (talk) 09:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Or do we dare add a word like "inexplicable" in the article? Bagumba (talk) 10:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I think the fact that he doesn't like to be referred to as a point guard is pretty trivial and doesn't need to be mentioned imo. The most important fact here is he plays the role of point guard and it is supported by multiple source.—Chris!_c/t 21:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I consider it noteworthy and not "trivial" as it begs questions like, "Why doesnt he want to be called a PG when he mostly plays one and like comparisons to Magic", "How is it determined what position a player is listed at (think Tim Duncan never being listed as Center)", "Is this all about marketing and differentiating himself." Bagumba (talk) 23:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

But we don't have any answers to those questions. :) I like Chris' approach. I don't think that James' quote is really that important in the grand scheme of things. It's just one of many things he's said in his career. Zagalejo^^^ 05:44, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

But using one of your earlier points, that "he's been known to contradict himself", if we dont include more examples when they happen especially when a reliable source has a full article related to the subject, how will someone who doesnt follow NBA/Lebron that closely capture that side of him. If it becomes too biased or overloaded with examples over time, we can consolidate later. However, I would argue its easier to delete later than it is to find this information later. Admittedly, I'm taking a slight inclusionism perspective here Bagumba (talk) 07:28, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, you have to balance inclusionism with readability. You don't want to overwhelm the reader with every possible piece of info on LeBron James. Zagalejo^^^ 07:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Article structure

Just curious, why does the "Off the court" section come before the sections on LeBron's playing career? Parts of the "Off the court" section assume familiarity with aspects of James' basketball career. (That section could also use a bit of pruning. I just removed an old rumor about him playing in Europe.) Zagalejo^^^ 08:12, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I see now that an IP asked the same question in December, and never got a response. Thus, I was bold, and just moved the section. If anyone disagrees, please feel free to comment. Zagalejo^^^ 08:28, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Personal Life Section? Married? Single?

Is this guy single? Married? On the Down Low? Does he have any Baby Momma's? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.159.111.98 (talk) 09:18, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

There was already some personal info in the opening of LeBron_James#Off_the_court, but I made it more explicit by adding a "Personal life" heading. Provide text and sources if you have info to add. Bagumba (talk) 09:05, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Career highs

I believe the Career highs section should go in a subpage and not in the main article. The non-basketball or casual fan would mostly not be interested. I could make the same argument for the season totals, but I think those help get a better sense of how a player usually performs as opposed to single game numbers. Bagumba (talk) 07:38, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Position

I wouldn't put him even partially as a guard, and I'm pretty sure I've seen him play power forward at times. 3pointswish (talk) 18:47, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

2010 Sports Jerk of the Year Award

I provided source and link to it, yet it got pulled, claiming being it wasn't "significant", yet the Q Source Company (which itself hardly qualifies as "significant") is up there, along with other moments that also would not be considered "significant" to be included. Seems rather hypocritical to list those yet claim an actual award isn't "significant". And judging by the people jumping on the LeBron bandwagon, seems like his fans don't want the award mentioned, yet claim the award has no "cultural impact"? Okay, then how does the OTHER events listed have "cultural impact"? For an award that's been given out yearly, and relies on readers' votes on who the biggest sports jerk is, I'd say that's cultural. Unlike some event of LeBron admitting marijuana, or hosting the ESPYS (non-notable awards!). How is that cultural? TyVulpine (talk) 03:36, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

No, the comic and the so-called award is not notable at all. For something to be notable enough for inclusion, it has to be supported by secondary reliable source. Clearly, there is no such sources for the comic. On the other hand, the Q score fact is sourced to CNBC, a secondary reliable source.—Chris!_c/t 03:46, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

For pop culture reference, need other sources that discuss this reference to James. Let's deal with this on it's own merits and deal with other crap existing already separately Bagumba (talk) 03:48, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

The Q source is a NON-NOTABLE award, nor did it have any "cultural impact". Neither is admitting smoking marijuana. The SJOY award is chosen by it's readers, which are sports fans. How is that non-cultural? TyVulpine (talk) 03:53, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Come up with a reliable source that discusses impact of fictitious award. Again deal with the other "crap" separately instead of using it as justification. Bagumba (talk) 04:03, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Nice avoiding of my questions about Q source and marijuana being "cultural impacts", as they had no measurable cultural impact regarding LeBron, unless you have secondary sources that can PROVE they did? TyVulpine (talk) 04:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Forget it, this ain't worth the headache. TyVulpine (talk) 04:13, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not averse to deleting the "Q source" if consensus supports it, but you can't compare it to the Jerk of the Year award. The former received coverage in a third-party reliable source (CNBC), whereas the latter is cited to a primary source (see WP:BLPPRIMARY, which is policy). Please do not revert again; as it is, you have already broken the three-revert rule, which is grounds for a block. Dabomb87 (talk) 05:44, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request Bellsprout723d

Please let me rephrase the personal life section of this article.I am not a Cleveland fan trying to vandalize this.I was going to try to change it so that it would not say LeBron's father was female,(because of the way it was worded it states that).

Thank you,I am just another Wikipedia user.--Bellsprout723d (talk) 03:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Be specific. Can you suggest a different way of phrasing the sentence? Dabomb87 (talk) 03:32, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Resolved

 – This is a duplicate to Bellsprout723d's comment at #Fix_Biography. It's already fixed. Bagumba (talk) 06:42, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

This is what it says, "His biological father, Anthony McClelland, was an ex-convict who left Gloria and forced her to raise LeBron by herself." I recommend it should say, "His biological father,Anthony McClelland was an ex-convict and left Gloria. Gloria then had to raise LeBron by herself.--Bellsprout723d (talk) 22:58, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Lebron james religion

Lebron James said he "thanked his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" on national TV. http://digg.com/news/entertainment/LeBron_James_says_Lord_and_Savior_Jesus_Christ_on_TV —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.155.243.197 (talk) 18:21, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

LeBron says lots of things. Without more sources reporting it, it doesnt seem notable. —Bagumba (talk) 21:12, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Even if sourced, this is not notable.—Chris!_c/t 21:50, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Request for protection

I think this article should be fully protected because angry people from Boston that have accounts (since Boston is a big city) aren't able to vandalize this. Thanks!

--Bellsprout723d (talk) 14:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

If you want it protected, state your reasons at WP:RFPP and see if there is enough recent vandalism to justify protection. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Done, I requested it.--Just a normal guy (talk) 17:06, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

2 million dollars raised with "the decision"

I know there's a lot of negative publicity with "the decision," but I think it's also important to note that 2 million dollars was raised for the boys and girls' clubs across America. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/LeBron-s-Decision-was-awful-but-his-charities?urn=nba-wp2143

Can we have this noted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.251.44 (talk) 05:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Chest Tattoo

That's not a "lion-dragon thing" on his chest, that's the Winged Lion of Saint Mark, founder of the Church of Africa. Being a Christian of African descent, the significance of his tattoo seems obvious.

Also, his left leg bears the word "HISTORY," which fits with the "WITNESS" on the other leg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.127.226.130 (talk) 02:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

The section, as a whole, was poorly sourced, so I just got rid of all of it. Zagalejo^^^ 02:17, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

MVP to switch teams

Is there consensus to remove the following from the article. It was removed from the WP:LEAD. When I added it to the main body, it was removed again:--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:48, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

He became the third reigning NBA MVP to change teams and the first since Moses Malone in 1982.

It's already at LeBron James#Miami Heat (2010–present). "James became the third reigning NBA MVP to change teams and the first since Moses Malone in 1982" —Bagumba (talk) 03:55, 11 September 2011 (UTC)