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Jimmy Wales was one of the Engineering and technology good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
October 14, 2005	Articles for deletion	Kept
June 15, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
July 5, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
October 10, 2006	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
October 17, 2006	Good article reassessment	Kept
June 13, 2007	Peer review	Reviewed
August 14, 2007	Articles for deletion	Speedily kept
August 31, 2007	Articles for deletion	Speedily kept
December 20, 2007	Good article reassessment	Delisted
September 16, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
March 16, 2009	Good article reassessment	Delisted
Current status: Delisted good article

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Nicholson Baker (10 April 2008). "How I fell in love with Wikipedia [1]". The Guardian.
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Nicole Markwald (14 January 2011). "Jimmy Wales und seine "Erfindung" Wikipedia". Tagesschau (Germany).

Regarding style of quotes

I recently took the trouble to convert all the straight quotation marks to curly ones. I expected to be reverted, and indeed it was, but now the article has a combination of curly and straight quotes (inconsistent).

I just want to remember that MoS is just a guideline and not policy. This encyclopedia is not just online, its articles also end up printed in books.

I know that " is easier for type, but you are not encouraged to use “ and ”. If someone took the time to change those little signs, do not undo that just for following the manual of style. In that case, don’t you think that this article also should follow strictly MoS? —Fitoschido ^[shout] \\ 19 July, 2011 [02:10]

In my humble opinion curly quotes are best in this very important WP page .!. . . . Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 15:09, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

User account

Hi all,

I think there should be a link to User:Jimbo Wales in the See also section of this article.

Thanks,

The Doctahedron, 16:42, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: "The Doctahedron" is not my user name. It is simply an alias by which I conceal my IP address.

The standard (see WP:SEEALSO) is to link to Namespace pages only in the "See also" sections. I think it would set a bad precedent to link user pages from the namespace.--Rollins83 (talk) 13:52, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It's not about precedent. It simply does not work on mirror sites. This is why hyperlinks specifically to Wikipedia must be external links:
  - {{cite web}}: "User talk:Jimbo Wales". English Wikipedia.
  - {{srlink}}: User talk:Jimbo Wales
- Uncle G (talk) 22:57, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Ph.D" you either have one....or you don't

It seems rather strange to me that Mr Wales has on his page something he doesn't have. And that is a Ph.D. If he doesn't have a Ph.D, why mention it? I'm sure there are plenty of people that don't have degrees, or don't have a Masters or don't have any qualifications altogether....so are wikipedia editors going to mention all of them as well? .....very strange..I am so tempted to remove it, but I don't want to cause an edit-war. ...and by-the-way I don't have a Ph.D either....but I do have common sense.... Veryscarymary (talk) 14:35, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the only reason to mention he doesn't have a Ph.D would be if it was notable, like for example the first person to walk on the moon who doesn't have a Ph.D and so on. If anyone without a Ph.D can create a site of such magnitude than there is no reason to say he doesn't have one. 206.172.0.204 (talk) 22:48, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No more opinions without an actionable proposal please. There have been a lot of offtopic rants here, and any discussion must be restricted to serious consideration of improvements to the article. The second paragraph of the introduction mentions the Ph.D. because the lead of an article is a summary of the main points, and the Ph.D. program/teaching was a significant step in his early life, as explained at Jimmy Wales#Early life and education. Johnuniq (talk) 23:07, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Respect

Apologies for the un proffesional headline, and for the possibility that this is in the wrong thread. However I spent half an hour trying to figure out where to post this. I would like to commend Mr. Wales and the entire Wikipedia team for their action on the SOPA bill currently happening. It is a true stand for democracy and I only wish I had something to offer this cause. It will be inconvient to lose Wikipedia, but the greater cause is worth the inconvience. Whenever I actually have available funds to donate, Wikipedia is the first on my list. Again, respect for this stand against the censorship and eventual goverment take over on the worlds last chance for a transperant democracy. Cheers, Alex. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.90.251.108 (talk) 09:39, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is the appropriate page for these comments. This talk page is specifically for the purpose of discussing improvements to the Jimmy Wales article. Not a big deal, though.--Rollins83 (talk) 14:02, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia protest blackout, Wednesday, Jan.18.2012

This is big!! .!. It is important to this article about the Founder and leader of WP. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/wikipedia-blackout-coming-jan-18-says-co-founder-jimmy-wales/2012/01/16/gIQAh2Ke3P_blog.html Headline: “Wikipedia blackout coming Wednesday, says co-founder Jimmy Wales . . . If Wikipedia blacks out as promised, Wales expects an estimated 25 million daily visitors to be affected. [English-speaking]. His advice for students who might rely on the site: “Do your homework early.”

And Wikipedia editors and contributors can do their work ‘offline’ for a day.
Another ref.:[1] Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:15, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Divorce and second child

Would it be possible to update Wales' biography with confirmation of his divorce from Christine (http://pubtitlet.co.pinellas.fl.us/servlet/pcg.wsclient.servlet.CivilDocketServlet?CS__CASE=09011014FD&CS__RESULTS__KNT=10) and birth of his second child (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24028957-mr-wikipedia-on-todays-blackout-moving-to-london-and-marrying-a-blair-babe.do)? - Pinellas FL records (talk) 13:24, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done NickCT (talk) 16:27, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note - I didn't add a reference for the second divorce. I think the primary source offered above is sufficient evidence that it is actually complete. NickCT (talk) 16:29, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~== Once and for all, founder or co-founder? ==~~

Either the WMF was "economical with the actualité" in its press release here or the stated co-founder's (revisionist?) claim here, restored by a recent edit, is ditto. Which is it? Writegeist (talk) 07:39, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Before this is allowed to become a GA, the "Controversy" section needs expanding

Not mentioned at all is Jimbo's well publicized role in the Commons child pornography debacle, which ended with Jimbo shamed into giving up many of the powers that were built into the Founder flag. He's been involved in other screw ups too, but at the very least the child porn unilateral deletion thing needs to be covered. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:24, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am not familiar with this article at all, only here because it is nominated at GAN, but the above comment falls well and truly onto the wrong side of helpful to any potential reviewer. If it is well publicised then some links to the publicity is needed and the vitriol needs to be toned down a notch or three. AIRcorn (talk) 12:23, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What's a 'GA' and what is 'GAN' ? . . . Do I have to search WP or do a Google-search to find out? Is it important? Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 13:09, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Wikipedia abbreviations -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 20:33, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! (Def. of Good Article abbr.) It looks like a Good Article to me and 'controversy' doesn't appeal to some of us. Thanks Again, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 14:55, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]