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{{Interface explanation|The content of [[MediaWiki:Recentchangestext]] is what appears at the top of [[Special:Recentchanges]] (which is what you get if you click the Recent changes link on the quick bar). This talk page is for discussing what might go on [[MediaWiki:Recentchangestext]]. Note: The MediaWiki:Recentchangestext page itself is protected against edits by users other than [[Wikipedia:Administrators|admins]] to prevent vandalism, so please add suggestions here. For an explanation of Special:Recentchanges, see [[m:Help:Recent changes]].}} |
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==This message on other sites, and in other languages on this site== |
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== Recent changes == |
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In an encyclopedia having nearly 3 million articles of which over 200 are edited a minute, it is worthless for the minimum recent changes that can be viewed to be 50 or the maximum to be 500. The minimum might be left as it is, but the maximum must be expanded to at least 1000 recent edits. <strong>[[User:Pmlinediter|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36648B">Pmlinediter</span>]]</strong> [[User_talk:Pmlinediter|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:blue">''Talk''</span></sup>]] 09:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:It could help to use categories.[[User:Daanschr|Daanschr]] ([[User talk:Daanschr|talk]]) 16:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== RSS Feed == |
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I have recently found that the RSS feed has a minor technical violation of the RSS 2.0 specification. None of the entries are given a <guid> tag - which means that RSS feed readers have no way to uniquely identify each entry. This can lead to those readers displaying every change multiple times. It might not matter on Wikipedia - because if the high rate of edits - but on sites using the MediaWiki codebase that have a lower number of edits it does. A quick fix is to just use the URL from the <link> tag a second time to provide a unique identifier for each entry. -- [[Special:Contributions/216.193.185.50|216.193.185.50]] ([[User talk:216.193.185.50|talk]]) 23:30, 29 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:This is a [[MediaWiki]] issue, I am afraid. Look for it [https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ here] and add it unless it has been noted already. [[User:Plrk|Plrk]] ([[User talk:Plrk|talk]]) 11:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::There was a report - developer closed it as "invalid" because they read the spec to say that the <guid> tag is not required. However, without that tag, no feed-reader that I have used can tell when an item is actually new. The fix I proposed above has not worked completely, as my primary feed reader reports a mass of new edits after being restarted even though those edits have been reported before. (see [https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7346 Bug #7346] for details - I will file a new one, regardless) -- [[Special:Contributions/216.193.185.50|216.193.185.50]] ([[User talk:216.193.185.50|talk]]) 17:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Too bad, that sucks. I hope they'll fix it with your new report. However, I must note that Google Reader handles the MediaWiki Recent Changes feeds just fine for me... [[User:Plrk|Plrk]] ([[User talk:Plrk|talk]]) 23:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC) |
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i would like to congratulate this company for an excellent service <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.28.6.194|92.28.6.194]] ([[User talk:92.28.6.194|talk]]) 11:35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Confusing to newbies == |
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I think we could do with a one or two line summary of what recent changes actually is, ok there is a link ( what is this page about), but on first click - and it is only one-click from main page - this page could be confusing ... [[user:leevanjackson|L∴V]] 22:02, 8 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:Hi, could you please clarify what page you're talking about before I answer? Thanks! --> [[User:A_F_K_When_Needed|A F K]] [[User_talk:A_F_K_When_Needed|When]] [[Special:Contributions/A_F_K_When_Needed|Needed]] 22:05, 8 September 2009 (UTC) |
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::Hi AFK! I'm not sure as the special interface pages can be a mystery, but on wikipedia, click recent changes, and your there!, there is a list of links to about this page and utils, followed by the actual changes, but no simple text giving an overview ... [[user:leevanjackson|L∴V]] 22:22, 8 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Ah, thank you! |
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:::I wasn't sure if you meant [[Special:RecentChanges]] (you do), [[MediaWiki:Recentchanges]], or whatever. |
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:::Right, now that we have that sorted out, I'll be honest, personally I don't see the need for it. As far as I'm concerned, contributors new to Wikipedia will have a lot to take in, and as long as they understand the page name -- contributor bit, which is pretty self-explanatory, I think that's more than enough. |
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:::I will however say that a small one - two sentence long note explaining the ''very basic idea'' of Recent Changes (page name + contributor) would be a good, helpful addition, but imo anything else is overkill. Remember that's just my opinion, of course. |
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:::I'd also like to thank you for trying to make us more newb-friendly. :) <span style="color:red;">[[User:A_F_K_When_Needed|A F K]] [[User_talk:A_F_K_When_Needed|When]] [[Special:Contributions/A_F_K_When_Needed|Needed]]</span> 22:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Cheers, I think as soon as the font size / colours etc change, continuity gets lost so a very simple one liner is all that's needed to provide an anchor. I am on one of my biannual missions to make access easier, all too often I see surprised looks when I tell people they can edit Wikipedia .. but then when I look at the learning curve of entry into the realms of wiki - well we still have a way to go! All this is good though , there's plenty of untapped potential - it's our job to tap it :) [[user:leevanjackson|L∴V]] 22:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC) |
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== Dashes == |
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I suggest replacing all spaced hyphens ( - ) with spaced en-dashes ( – ), for the sake of general consistency and conformance with the [[WP:DASH|Manual of Style]]. [[User:The Duke of Waltham|Waltham]], <small>[[User talk:The Duke of Waltham|''The Duke of'']]</small> 21:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 01:20, 15 September 2009 (UTC) |
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== Challenges == |
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I propose we remove [[WP:Challenges|'challenges']], recent changes should be as usable as possible, esp. for new/inexperienced users, this is one of the most visible pages we have and we should make sure it's attractive to all. New users are probably confused by this and the header is quite long, so we could make the header shorter and more 'to the point' by removing it. Moreover this project is barely active. [[User:Cenarium|Cenarium]] ([[User talk:Cenarium|talk]]) 18:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC) |
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:No opposition, I have removed them ([[WP:SILENCE]]/[[WP:BOLD]]). [[User:Cenarium|Cenarium]] ([[User talk:Cenarium|talk]]) 18:55, 19 November 2009 (UTC) |
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== Proposed changes == |
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Displayed [http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:Cenarium/RCtext&oldid=327364932 here]: propose to remove the (edit) link next to Requests:, as it may be confusing to new and inexperienced users (I've created an [[Template:Editnotices/Page/MediaWiki:Recentchangestext|editnotice]] to compensate, it's also in hidden text) and move the living people RC link next to the FA/GA RC links for coherence. [[User:Cenarium|Cenarium]] ([[User talk:Cenarium|talk]]) 23:38, 22 November 2009 (UTC) |
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:Changes implemented. [[User:Cenarium|Cenarium]] ([[User talk:Cenarium|talk]]) 17:58, 25 November 2009 (UTC) |
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