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It is unknown when he became a resident of the state of Washington

It is unknown when he became a resident of the state of Washington 71.36.100.171 (talk) 19:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2024

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Remove "far right" from the page. Politically divisive language should be prohibited and facts alone should be added such as "republican." The reader should be able to decide if the political candidate is far right or far left. MedicDG (talk) 01:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Wikipedia articles follow what cited, reliable sources say. It does not categorically reject labels like "far-right" and "far-left" if that is what is supported by the material. Glass Snow (talk) 03:15, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

far-right and far-left are subjective labels in this context, not objective. Therefore far-right should be removed from this page. Just the same as far-left labels should be removed from any pages. 97.88.59.149 (talk) 22:04, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

reliable source for my above comment regarding the labels far-left and far-right being subjective. AP Facebook post regarding appropriate/inappropriate usage of subjective political labels. Porksword67 (talk) 22:20, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We don't use the AP's stylebook, as we have our own: Manual of Style. We also have our own policies and guidelines—like WP:NPOV, which requires us to fairly summarize what reputable sources say about our subjects. That means including both objective and subjective (even biased!) analysis. Woodroar (talk) 22:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Kent favorably cited the work of white supremacist writer Sam Francis"

OP blocked as a sock. Woodroar (talk) 13:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Fred Zepelin Hello, I noticed you reverted my removal of this line from lead, referencing leadcite. However this claim is not mentioned in the body of the article, and the citation in the lead does not support it either. Can you please show me which citation supports this claim? Glass Snow (talk) 22:20, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the original citation was from Vanity Fair that was added to the body and then moved to the lead. Personally, I think it might be best left in the body with attribution to Vanity Fair, for now, since it doesn't seem to be mentioned in other RS that we have. If they can locate other RS that also confirms it, inclusion in the lead would seem more reasonable. Cheers. DN (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was originally in both, as far as I can tell, and then removed from the body. Bit of whitewashing there. I reverted that. Fred Zepelin (talk) 01:53, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Okay, I just found it odd that such a controversial claim was in the lead, apparently unsourced.~~

However, I don't know how I feel about such a large claim remaining in the lead supported only by a single, highly POV article. I searched for more on Joe Kent's association with Sam Francis and only found one other article on it (History News Network), and it was clearly a derivative of the Vanity Fair article. What are your thoughts? This seems like the sort of claim that ought to be heavily substantiated. Glass Snow (talk) 05:51, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Sam Francis part was removed because of previous discussion, where it was noted that the content had only one source with little to no explanation. Not 'whitewashing' MisterWat3rm3l0n (talk) 18:21, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is absolutely no consensus in that discussion that indicates what you say it indicates. Very misleading to put this on the talk page as if it's iron-clad, when in fact it's quite the opposite. Fred Zepelin (talk) 06:56, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2024

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he was not an officer in the ranger regiment. he was enlisted his entire career. Reubengoldstein (talk) 08:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 13:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While the initial request is worded poorly, I looked at the sources and I believe they are correct. None of the sources say Kent was an officer (one says "CIA paramilitary officer", but that's not the same as a military officer). It's likely that he was enlisted, as his wife was enlisted, and officers are not allowed to carry on relationships with enlisted personnel, let alone marry them. Fred Zepelin (talk) 18:25, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Far Right is an outrageous tag

Labeling every republican far right is ridiculous slander. Typical of public sources. 2600:1008:B06D:A2B:75E0:AB69:B99B:E24F (talk) 20:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The adjective is used by the sources linked. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 20:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you saying Joe Kent is literally every Republican, or do you mean it like that Whitney Houston song? DN (talk) 22:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]