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== Accusations and rumor of Abney Parks poor disposition == |
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Some whom have interacted with the Band claim that they are less prestigious and humble then some may say they are. There have been several reports of the band exhibiting generally rude or Haughty behavior towards their fans and or those with whom they come into contact with. It is said that they can been rather arrogant at times and such rumors do not bode well for their fan base. |
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''Does/do anyone else think Abney Park are a bunch of douche bags? |
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I went to Metrocon this weekend and had a rather unpleasant time dealing with them. I volunteered to get my badge refunded and ended up helping out the metrocon guest staff....they seemed to be really rude and haunty. On saturday the staff was trying to get them food and the AB Member who wears a kilt(I don't know his name) basically chewed out one of metro's staff because they offered the band something to snack on while someone went and got them something better to eat. We got them some deli meat and bread so they could make sandwichs while we sent out for food, but they said "they are better then fucking ham and cheese". |
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These guys really disappointed me. they treated everyone like shit and I do believe they were the reason all of Saturdays events were late. They took forever setting up their equipment and nit picking over little things. To make a bad situation even worse, I even heard that they may have TRASHED their Hotel room. |
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Was anyone else treated like shit by these pricks?'' |
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Whether Such things are true or not is up for discussion, but such beliefs and opinions regarding Abney Park are no secret among those who follow their circuit. |
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The historic grounds of Abney Park are situated in Stoke Newington, London, England. It is a 13ha (32 acre) park dating from just before 1700AD. In the early 1700s it became landscaped and laid-out by the first Lady of the Manor of Stoke Newington, the Independent ('Congregationalist'), Lady Mary Abney, who moved here several years after the death of her husband, Sir Thomas Abney. She was helped in the task of landscaping the grounds by the learned Dr Isaac Watts, and the neighbouring Hartopp family who leased the eastern part of the park from Lady Abney.
In the early 17th century, Lady Mary Abney's park was accessed via the frontages and gardens of two large mansions on her estate — her own manor house (Abney House), and the neighbouring Fleetwood House and its detached Summerhouse. Both mansions fronted onto Church Street in the quiet nonconformist village of Stoke Newington. Landscape improvements carried out by Dr Isaac Watts and Lady Mary Abney included the planting of two elm walks — the Great Elm Walk and Little Elm Walk that established shady walks down to the island Heronry of the Hackney Brook at the bottom of the park. Both Wych Elm and English Elm were planted. At the neighbouring Fleetwood House, one of the early UK plantings of a Cedar of Lebanon tree had already taken place, adjacent to an ornamental pond. This tree survived into the 1920s and is illustrated in many engravings.
Other trees planted at an early date at Abney Park (either in the portion leased to Fleetwood Hosue, or that attached solely to Abney House) included American Larch and Tulip Trees from the New World where Stoke Newington's nonconformists had strong connections.
Abney House
Abney Park was dominated by Abney House. For some time in the early decades of the nineteenth century, it was the residence of James William Freshfield and his family. In its final days it became a Wesleyan Methodist training college or seminary c.1838/9-1843, and was then 'recycled' (broken up for sale as building materials for the building trade of the rapidly expanding metropolis) as was common in the Victorian era. The governorship of the ministerial training establishment at Abney House was granted to the Rev. John Farrar 1802-1884 (Secretary of the Methodist Conference on fourteen occasions and twice its elected President). When the Methodists moved into their first purpose-built college at Richmond, south of London, in 1843, he became the Classical Tutor and remained there until 1857.
Fleetwood House
Alongside the Methodist Training college was another educational establishment of note in Abney Park: a Quaker school for girls which attracted various appellations including 'Newington College for Girls' or 'Newington Academy for Girls', and satirically as 'Newington Nunnery'.
One visitor, Joseph Pease (who became the first Quaker MP and whose daughter was important in slavery abolition) wrote of the girls' school at Abney Park in 1827, shortly after it acquired the first school bus (Shillibeer) in the world:
- "Dear Coz* in my last
- I shewed the advantage as well as renown
- That our body of Friends cannot fail to acquire
- By the Female Establishment 2 miles (3.2 km) from Town"
- "Where the pupils imbibe such astounding variety
- Of stores intellectual - I solemly vow
- Since the earliest days of the Quaker Society,
- Such achievements by girls were ne'er heard of till now."
- "No science, no art, in their tribe is a mystery
- The path of the earth and the tides of the sea,
- Cosmography, Algebra, Chemistry, History
- To those juvenile Blues are a mere A.B.C"
- "And in languages -oh you'd not credit their skill !
- One can scarce name a tongue, Coz, but what they can reason in,
- Greek, Hebrew, French, Latin, Italian at will,
- With Irish and Welch for occasional seasoning."
- "The strainht path of Truth the dear Girl's keep their feet in
- And ah ! It would do your heart good Cousin Anne
- To see them arriving at Gracechurch Street Meeting**
- All snugly packed 25 in a van***."
[*Cousin Anne; **the Quaker Meeting House in the City of London that they attended for services; ***the first school bus in the world, a 'Shillibeer']
Pease's poem reflects the novelty of a school for girls teaching sciences in such detail at this date. This was in no small measure due to the influence of the school's benefactor, the Quaker scientist and abolitionist William Allen, and to its headmistress, Susanna Corder.
The school's first prospectus was issued on 14 August 1824 and it began taking pupils shortly thereafter. It is unclear when it closed, but the novel Quaker girl's school lost exclusive use of the eastern portion of Abney Park when the Abney Park Cemetery was formed in 1840, though the pupils thereafter benefitted from its splendid educational arboretum designed by Loddiges. Fleetwood House itself was demolished in 1872.
Sources
- Shirren, A.J. (reprint; 1951 1st ed) The Chronicles of Fleetwood House. University of Houston Foundation: Pacesetter
- Whitehead, Jack (1983) The Growth of Stoke Newington. London: J Whitehead
- Joyce, Paul (1984) A guide to Abney Park Cemetery. London: Hackney Society
See also
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Accusations and rumor of Abney Parks poor disposition
Some whom have interacted with the Band claim that they are less prestigious and humble then some may say they are. There have been several reports of the band exhibiting generally rude or Haughty behavior towards their fans and or those with whom they come into contact with. It is said that they can been rather arrogant at times and such rumors do not bode well for their fan base.
Does/do anyone else think Abney Park are a bunch of douche bags?
I went to Metrocon this weekend and had a rather unpleasant time dealing with them. I volunteered to get my badge refunded and ended up helping out the metrocon guest staff....they seemed to be really rude and haunty. On saturday the staff was trying to get them food and the AB Member who wears a kilt(I don't know his name) basically chewed out one of metro's staff because they offered the band something to snack on while someone went and got them something better to eat. We got them some deli meat and bread so they could make sandwichs while we sent out for food, but they said "they are better then fucking ham and cheese".
These guys really disappointed me. they treated everyone like shit and I do believe they were the reason all of Saturdays events were late. They took forever setting up their equipment and nit picking over little things. To make a bad situation even worse, I even heard that they may have TRASHED their Hotel room.
Was anyone else treated like shit by these pricks?
Whether Such things are true or not is up for discussion, but such beliefs and opinions regarding Abney Park are no secret among those who follow their circuit.