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Discussion on Main Page affecting April Fools Day Tradition

There is a discussion on the Main Page relative to the April Fools Day tradition that would affect this page---Balloonman ^{Poppa Balloon} 00:50, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Easter in 2018

This year, April Fool's Day is Easter Sunday, - should that be mentioned somewhere on the page? Will we still have slots for Easter-related subjects? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:03, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry Gerda, I already have a hook written specifically for Easter already for it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 10:39, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am planning one, or two, depending on the answer here. If we have three slots, I don't feel I should occupy two of them. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:58, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Gosh, if only I'd known, I'd have worked up some hook like that Hillary's political ambitions are being resurrected? Just kidding. Since I'm here, I've been asking around informally about a follow-on idea to the famous Trump/Russia hook. How about we run a companion hook in the second slot:

... that Hillary's portrait is now being printed on some $5 bills?

Wouldn't that be a hoot? E Eng 15:57, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So with the latest addition to the list for this year's 4/1, I'm hoping now to have the following run together:

... that Trump is directly connected to Russia (map pictured)?
... that Hillary's portrait is now being printed on some $5 bills?
... that Obama was born in Japan?

The only significant work needed to achieve this zenith of hooking achievement is to bring Edmund Hillary to GA. Comments, please. E Eng 01:41, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Trump and Obama get the tick from me. Are you planning on sending Hillary to GAN, usually you've got a six month delay on that kind of thing....? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I twisted someone's arm to get him to agree to GA-review it. I was just waiting for you to give it a going over before nominating. Does it have the TRM seal of approval? E Eng 20:57, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm cool with Hillary, the article is probably a GA, but the claim "In 1992 Hillary appeared on the updated New Zealand $5 note, thus making him the only living person not a current head of state ever to appear on a New Zealand banknote" doesn't seem commensurate with "is now being printed on some $5 bills?". It's definitely true that Kiwis are spending Hillary dollars, but this needs explicit refs. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:36, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks, Mr. The Rambling Man. I've added a ref [1] showing that the Hillary $5 is still the current $5 bill in circulation, but one could quibble with the assertion that Hillary's portrait is now being printed i.e. maybe they only print them every January or something, so they're not "now" being printed. I think "being printed" can be taken as meaning they've been printed in the past, are still the current design, and (presumably) will be printed in future. What do you think? The quibbling could be sidestepped by saying "is now on some $5 bills", but I much prefer "is now being printed on some $5 bills". Do you think the sourcing covers the hook as stated? Luckily the hook detail doesn't come up until the DYK review, so I'll go ahead with the GA nom now. E Eng 01:26, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man, I'd still like your opinion on the "now" point. E Eng 17:36, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

EEng sorry for not getting back to you on this. Would you consider "Hillary's portrait features on $5 bills" or "Hillary's portait has been printed on $5 bills"? Both are indisputable but perhaps not so snappy.... 17:51, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely not as good ... "is getting printed" perhaps? Gatoclass (talk) 17:57, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Is getting printed" really sounds like it's imminent but not yet actually happened. "features on" sounds like something that's been around a while, and "has been printed" sounds like something in the past that may or may not continue. The beauty of "is now being printed" is that it implies that it's something quite new, so the reader is more likely to think it's a surprising new development that he, personally, for some reason hasn't yet heard about. That present progressive tense, along with the it's-just-started-very-recently flavor of "now" is what I'm trying to preserve. Ideas on other ways to achieve this are most welcome. To be clear, in case my post just above didn't make it clear, the Hillary bills have been NZ's $5 note since 1992, and continue to be. E Eng 19:17, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We still also need to get Christ the Lord Is Risen Today reviewed. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 11:38, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Back to Easter and AFD: What about running three sets of eight hooks each—two sets will be April Fools sets and one set will have the Easter hooks and other "regular" DYK hooks? Yoninah (talk) 22:47, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lead hooks for 2018

We currently have 15 hooks for April Fools - almost enough for two sets, and there is at least one other nomination I've seen not yet nominated here which would make it two sets, so we need two lead images. From the current selection I would suggest the squirrel hook for one lead and the Woodside hook for the other, because all the other images IMO act like spoilers for their hooks. Gatoclass (talk) 14:02, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Don't forget that a long discussion last month settled on:

ALT6A: ... that Trump is directly connected to Russia (map pictured)?

The image is an essential part of that hook. See #Easter in 2018 above for more. I'm about to make the Hillary nomination -- just waiting for GA approval. E Eng 14:33, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Isn’t the image a spoiler for the hook? Mramoeba (talk) 15:13, 20 March 2018 (UTC) *edit: Ok, long discussion preceded, I won’t get involved. Mramoeba (talk) 15:20, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You need to read the discussion. We have some fraidy cats who worried that it might be a BLP violation without the map to set the record straight right away. The reader still gets the fun of realizing it's not what it seems when he sees the map. And see the earlier part of this main thread (above) for the trio of hooks I have in mind to run together. So there's plenty of political fun to go around. E Eng 17:19, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't looked at the discussion yet, but I agree with Mramoeba that the map is a major spoiler. But if there was a concern that the hook would violate NPOV without the map, I think that will not be the case if it's run together with the Obama hook and the Hillary one. Gatoclass (talk) 17:44, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Heaven forfend we poke fun at a blameless individual. How about “Hillary’s on the money” haha. We should have Robert Bartholomew’s image as he’s clearly not in hysterics, although I would say that as it was my article. Mramoeba (talk) 17:48, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the three hooks together should eliminate any possible worry about political bias, but we had such a hard time getting to yes already that I hesitate to ping everyone back for ANOTHER discussion. Well, let's stew on it a while. E Eng 19:09, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Trump with drunk bear

Trump without drunk bear

I was going to suggest Trump (dog) - see Template:Did you know nominations/Trump (dog). There is a nice detail from a Hogarth painting, or the full satirical engraving. I'll let you decide whether to use it or not. Perhaps there is too much trumpery already. Theramin (talk) 23:57, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That certainly has potential but I think you'll agree that the hook

... that Hogarth depicted Trump urinating on Churchill's Epistle?

lacks the punch of the Trump hook we've already got, at least in that particular form. We could probably work it into something about a golden shower but, seriously, I don't think there will be time to tamp down the ensuing controversy. Well, here's a thought:

... that there is picture of Trump urinating on Churchill?

No, no... It'll never fly. E Eng 04:10, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-preps for April 1

It's too early to actually build prep sets for April 1, but still I think we better start doing something concrete. Here's a stab at it to start discussion. I've put the three US political hooks in the second set to run during daytime in the US. In most cases I've listed only the subject in case there are several hooks in the same nom to choose from, plus I'm lazy right now. Thus this is just a rough outline.

SET ONE (0000-1200 UTC)

[Squirrel-sponsored cyberterrorism, with image]
[Pelican -- might be fun to have two animal hooks together]
[Jigsaw ransomware -- the other set already has a ransomware hook]
?
[Batcave]
?
?
[Coughing jurors]

SET TWO (1200-2400 UTC)

... that Trump is directly connected to Russia (map pictured)?
... that Hillary's portrait is now being printed on some $5 bills?
... that Obama was born in Japan?

::... that Hitler's demands for mobile phone gift cards may have upset some Nazis?
[Bartholomew in hysterics]
[Zeus]
?
[Brian Wilson is a genius]

OK, I'm tired. Someone else take over. E Eng 04:40, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer needed

I have decided to reformat a nomination for April Fools day because the majority of the final four round of the 2018 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Tournament will occur on April 1 UTC. We have a hook to celebrate that concurrence with Template:Did you know nominations/Jordan Poole. I also think that this concurrence might make for a great lead hook.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:44, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@The C of E, EEng, Gerda Arendt, The Rambling Man, Gatoclass, and Mramoeba:, There was a lot of discussion above about the main hook for the April Fools Day. In the United States, March Madness is a huge cultural phenomenon. The final four will start at 22:09 the day before April Fools Day and run until about 3:00 UTC on April Fools day. Thus, it will be in the news cycle for most of April Fools Day UTC. It would be quite timely for us to have a major cultural event prominently displayed on our main page during the Final Four news cycle run. I have created Template:Did you know nominations/Jordan Poole, which would make for a great main hook, and it needs a reviewer.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:53, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like a perfectly fine hook for a normal day but I am in the UK and my opinion is it has nothing to do with April fools and is much too USA centred. I have no idea what the hook even means. Sorry to be negative. Mramoeba (talk) 16:37, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I was told on Template:Did you know nominations/Fly Fishing: Memories of Angling Days exactly that about specialist regional hooks. If it is still on Saturday BST then maybe we could still run it on Saturday. Meanwhile Template:Did you know nominations/Christ the Lord Is Risen Today also requires a reviewer for ALT7 for Easter/April Fools Day. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:06, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think that my suggestion above, under Easter, would apply here too. One 8-hour set could be dedicated to Easter and other "regular" DYK subjects, like this basketball tournament. Yoninah (talk) 22:49, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]