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superseding previous approval now that hook has been pulled, and striking hook at issue
re hook, just a thought
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:::*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Adding icon to indicate that this is not currently approved: issues are that original hook's "first rival" was unsupported, and that the hook was said by EEng to be uninteresting because former employees becoming rivals in this industry is not particularly noteworthy or interesting. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 15:47, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
:::*[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Adding icon to indicate that this is not currently approved: issues are that original hook's "first rival" was unsupported, and that the hook was said by EEng to be uninteresting because former employees becoming rivals in this industry is not particularly noteworthy or interesting. [[User:BlueMoonset|BlueMoonset]] ([[User talk:BlueMoonset|talk]]) 15:47, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::Just to emphasize that I'm not some final approval decider, just a busybody editor who's contributing added scrutiny. My only real concern is the "final" aspect of the hook (see DYK talk) -- the point that former-employee rivalries are common was just a side comment, not a reason for pulling. But since it's come up there might be something a bit more attention-grabbing -- maybe something like

::::::'that 'the ''Times'' said KB's 1960s fashion designs appealed "to young women keen to develop a look of their own instead of conforming to the styles favoured by their mothers and aunts."''
:::::That gives a window into the past, instead of being something that could just as well have happened today. Just a suggestion. [[User:EEng|EEng]] ([[User talk:EEng|talk]]) 16:25, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
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Revision as of 16:25, 21 June 2014

Kiki Byrne

  • ALT1: ... that 1950s–60s fashion designer Kiki Byrne, rival to Mary Quant, "never got the recognition she deserved", according to the founder of Biba?
  • Reviewed: Nicolae Minovici
  • Comment: There are a few other possible hooks - maybe one about the Goldfinger bikini, but I think the Quant rivalry is the catchiest factoid.

Created by Mabalu (talk). Self nominated at 00:37, 6 June 2014 (UTC).

  • New enough, long enough, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Hook ref AGF and cited inline. QPQ done. The first hook is snappy and catchy. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 16:24, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Adding icon to indicate that this is not currently approved: issues are that original hook's "first rival" was unsupported, and that the hook was said by EEng to be uninteresting because former employees becoming rivals in this industry is not particularly noteworthy or interesting. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:47, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Just to emphasize that I'm not some final approval decider, just a busybody editor who's contributing added scrutiny. My only real concern is the "final" aspect of the hook (see DYK talk) -- the point that former-employee rivalries are common was just a side comment, not a reason for pulling. But since it's come up there might be something a bit more attention-grabbing -- maybe something like
'that 'the Times said KB's 1960s fashion designs appealed "to young women keen to develop a look of their own instead of conforming to the styles favoured by their mothers and aunts."
That gives a window into the past, instead of being something that could just as well have happened today. Just a suggestion. EEng (talk) 16:25, 21 June 2014 (UTC)