User talk:GreenMeansGo

Jorge Segovia

Hey, I would like to make that wikipedia available. Just that... — Preceding unsigned comment added by JSegoviaPianist (talk • contribs) 16:20, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey JSegoviaPianist. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for you or anyone else to try to advertise themselves, their work, or to try to provide links to buy products, including albums. In order to qualify for an article on Wikipedia, a subject has to meet Wikipedia's standards for notability, which requires that the subject have received sustained coverage in reliable secondary sources. If a person cannot meet this standard, then they do not yet qualify for a Wikipedia article. TimothyJosephWood 16:23, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

I answer here... please just listen to the music and let it go. 20.000 persons every month can't be wrong listening to my music on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/artist/6DIidRzTS95J6etMpSyeg1

Ok, I will quit the link to the album

"Letting it go" isn't really one of the options. If you are so very popular, then a Wikipedia article will surely be written about you at some point, once you have received substantial coverage in reliable sources. If you would like to advertise your music, you will have much better luck on social media, than on Wikipedia. TimothyJosephWood 16:35, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Mhmm.. I appear in 5 articles, as far as I can remember... some of them are in spanish. Is this ok? Can you write please that I exist and just that? I am not making commercial music so I won't be popular never. But in the other hand, please look, http://independentclauses.com/tag/jorge-segovia/ http://www.portaljovenclm.com/premiados.php?idc=70 http://es.paperblog.com/jorge-segovia-nos-deja-nuevas-referencias-3764381/ http://amsonata.org/artistas-sonata.html http://j-musind.blogspot.com.es/2016/04/jorge-segovia-un-piano-de-otro-planeta.html

Can you please write something like hey, this musician exists and is alright..? :D 20.000 persons are listening to his music on Spotify every month. Maybe I am not Justin Bieber, but this is just contemporary piano. thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by JSegoviaPianist (talk • contribs) 17:02, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Blogs are not considered reliable sources for the purposes of Wikipedia, and sources like amsonata.org appear to be blatantly promotional.

Wikipedia does not include articles to say that people exist, and existing does not qualify a subject for a Wikipedia article. If your music is so popular, than you will eventually get noticed by the kinds of media that write about your field, and will in turn better qualify for your own article. But until that happens, Wikipedia is not a means for you to promote yourself or your music. TimothyJosephWood 17:10, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

that is an important space where we can promote and make known our work and effort. They don't choose just somebody... https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Famsonata.org%2Fartistas-sonata.html anyway, I will release my 30th album soon and I will promote it using the traditional magazines so I will be able to be in wikipedia. Didn't know this, sorry. On the other hand, 20.000 listeners on Spotify is great... but not enough... ok...

Dear TJW

Hey man,

how are you? hope u fine.

I uploaded this other one too , but it's just the translated version..

If you please could explain me how to insert a translation and PLEASE remove the speedy deletion note, I can add it instead of "copying" it from an article I wrote myself.

It's true, I am a noob at this, but help me then instead of mark it as a speedy deletion please.

Kind regards Skavlan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skavlan69 (talk • contribs) 16:51, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey Skavlan69. Both the article in Dutch as well as the article in English contain no sources, and appear to be original research. If this myth has been widely covered by reliable sources, then it may be suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia, and those sources should be included in the article to demonstrate that. However, if this is based on your personal research it is not appropriate because Wikipedia is a not a publisher or original thought. TimothyJosephWood 16:59, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Help desk

Hello Timothy. Could you please check my question on help desk? thank you

https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Please_help_me_to_submit_move_request

202.155.216.28 (talk) 20:37, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

 Done TimothyJosephWood 20:41, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Can you please reply again? 202.155.216.28 (talk) 20:45, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

I will reply shortly. Right now I have to attend to some offline things. TimothyJosephWood 20:46, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Comment

Third party opinion request

This is a courtesy notification. I have placed a Wikipedia:Third opinion request regarding your recent edit of History of Norwalk, Connecticut. Have a nice day!——→StephenTS42 (talk) 16:06, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Sure. Or you could probably try to fix the things you think are unclear in a way that isn't written like a low-budget basic-cable documentary. had not been spared the roaming's of nomadic hunters ... the vast North American continent ... no doubt piqued the hunt-and-gather instincts of archaeologists None of this is encyclopedic language. TimothyJosephWood 16:17, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Reza Aslan

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Reza Aslan. Legobot (talk) 04:31, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Matt McAllister (The Chalkman)

This page is a work in progress. Please do not delete. Most information for this page will be coming from www.mattmcallisterart.com (which is a site owned by Matt McAllister) himself, his personal and professional Facebook pages, as well as my personal experiences I've had with him over the last 17 years of friendship. I'm new to Wikipedia and not sure the proper processes or How To's. Please bare with me as I continue to create and edit the page. I apologize if I do anything wrong or against proper procedure. Thank you Erik.Blackburn2 (talk) 17:04, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey Erik.Blackburn2. While a subject's official website can be used for some information on a Wikipedia article, in order to establish that a subject meets our notability guidelines an article needs to include references to reliable secondary sources. If these types of sources don't yet exists, then it may be too soon for the individual to have their own article. TimothyJosephWood 17:07, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you There are newspaper articles and Radio appearances as well I can cite. Thank you for your help. Erik.Blackburn2 (talk) 17:09, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

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 Fixed TimothyJosephWood 21:35, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Sources

Hey! Thanks for your input. I am using Wikipedia for the first time and have a difficult time with how it works. How can I cite sources? I have tried so many things and cannot get that part going. — Preceding unsigned comment added by House for sale (talk • contribs) 21:32, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey House for sale. You may want to check our our tutorial on referencing at Help:Referencing for beginners or take our interactive tutorial at The Wikipedia Adventure. TimothyJosephWood 21:34, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Really?

I've been around Wikipedia for a while. If you want help in how to do things right, then I'm more than willing. If you don't then I'm not your fucking sergeant and I can't make you. If you happen to want to learn how things work around here and unfuck yourself then drop me a line.

You think that was a little on uneeded side? —JJBers 02:39, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes I do. TimothyJosephWood 11:41, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. —JJBers 14:36, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

ANI

I'll be the first person to admit that I probably hang out at ANI more than I should, and there are definitely threads there that can benefit from the input of non-admin but experienced editors. But it's not necessary for any one person to comment on nearly every thread there, and none of us, not even admins, should reach the point where drama boards constitute the majority of our time editing. You seem to be quickly approaching that point, and some of your contributions seem a bit more geared toward arguing with others for its own sake, rather than making a contribution that actively moves the thread toward some kind of resolution. So, just a heads up that this trend is becoming...noticeable to others.

Fair enough. I know what you are trying to say. I probably should have stayed out that US politics one - but it seemed so circular, I thought perhaps I could drill down further to what was driving it. I haven't even been over there yet today to see where it went - I'm almost afraid to look. Okay, here we go. There are currently 34 discussions over there. Many of my actual edits are in the JohnPackardLambert thread - where I am WP:Involved - which is what brought me back to WP:ANI in the first place. I tend to edit in the Football area - and when the Rugby thread opened up, I figured I should jump in there too (though, given that I chased the one editor away, maybe wasn't such a great thing) ... where a lot of my other edits are. So, I'm in 13 of the threads. Most of which I have nothing left to contribute. I feared it would be higher than 13! And I didn't seem to blow up the Snooganssnoogans discussion - hmm, I think I understand better where they are coming from too - I think is he working in good faith, but there's really a lot to look at.

I've been here before (well, other than being WP:Involved. I tend to participate in other discussions when involved, and then ignore it when not involved. Though it's been a few years. Though, if I can be genuinely helpful, maybe I'll stick around. I've tried to make a couple of light-hearted jokes, but they've gone over like lead balloons - it's no fun when you have to explain every part of it in glorious detail.

Thanks for the comment. The truth is that my real life will intrude soon, and I'll vanish for about a month or so - so you won't have to put up with me much more for a while! Nfitz (talk) 18:50, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Wait a minute. Read your post again. "Nearly every thread there"? 13 out of 34? I don't object to your overall comment, but I don't know why you'd say that. Nfitz (talk) 22:10, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Close enough. Ctrl-f sees you having 74 comments/mentions on ANI currently, while I myself have 20, including one thread I'm actually involved in off-ANI, and another I started myself. If you are particularly active user in certain areas, then it is likely you will wind up involved in an an ANI thread quite often, but if your primary purpose on WP is to contribute to threads you are uninvolved in on ANI, and do so in a way that does not move the particular thread toward any sort of conclusion, then those contributions are not helpful or welcome. TimothyJosephWood 22:25, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Close enough - it's less than 40%, it's an exaggeration. If I went to the 2016 US Election page and said "nearly everyone voted for Trump", I'd probably get an instantaneous block. Etiquette say Do not intentionally make misrepresentations. Apologise if you inadvertently do so. I'm struggling to see why didn't apologize? Not trying to be argumentative here. Nfitz (talk) 22:51, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

To be clear, if you continue on this unconstructive path, I will likely soon seek a topic ban from ANI threads you are not involved in off-ANI. TimothyJosephWood 22:28, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Help me here. In all good faith. Other than the diversion I shouldn't have gotten into on the Vandal redirects to Donald Trump thread, and the joke I made about not letting Americans edit articles about American politics (which appears to have bombed) what have I not said there in an uninvolved thread in a way that was not moving the thread along to a conclusion? I'm looking for guidance here. I won't contribute to any new threads for now. Also, where is the guidance on who should contribute to ANI and style-guide on how responses should work - I've looked for that a couple of times, and failed. I have no desire other than being constructive, helpful, and useful. Nfitz (talk) 22:51, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Take my advice when I say you are not being constructive, helpful, and useful. Go to WP:BACKLOG which is what I do when I need something to do, pick a category and try to chip away at it. TimothyJosephWood 23:07, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

I would really like some help me to understand why? What for example was wrong with this or this (which I think is the ultimate answer, as that's a big range block). Or in particular this which I think needed to be said. Thanks for pointing me to WP:BACKLOG, I haven't been there in years. Looks like someone has made it a lot more usable! Nfitz (talk) 00:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

If you would like help in contributing to the project, then I am more than willing. If you would like help in better contributing to ANI, then I am not, because ANI is not the project; the project is the encyclopedia. TimothyJosephWood 01:11, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

I've been contributing to ANI and AN on and off for a decade. If there's an issue with the contributions I made like this, this, or this then I need to know about it, because it seems unlikely that in the next decade or two that I won't wander back in here, and see something that concerns me. If you've got an issue with my contributions, but can't explain what the issue is, then we have a problem. I think it's a personally reasonable question. Otherwise, I start wondering if you've all really got a secret list somewhere, and I've broken the union rules by not being an admin, being too nice and helpful to people, not willing to violate WP:5P4 and WP:5P5 on a regular basis! Obviously that's not really the case, but I think I have a right to know what the issue is. Nfitz (talk) 01:54, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

If you would like help in contributing to the project, then I am more than willing. If you would like help in better contributing to ANI, then I am not, because ANI is not the project; the project is the encyclopedia.TimothyJosephWood 02:14, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

I feel I'm in some bizarre comedy or something. You've taken an action here by warning me on my talk page, and I think you need to justify it. I've asked you to justify it, and you have not done so. If you were an admin, then this would be a violation of WP:ADMINACCT. Ironically, as you are not an admin, it is not a violation - though it does strike me as very odd indeed, and perhaps even uncivil. On the other hand, I appreciate the warning - there's 2 or 3 comments I should have made. However, I question the wisdom of the approach, particularly of a relatively new editor like yourself. I'm not entirely sure what's going on here. As a metaphor, I feel I'm standing outside a doors that says "whites only" on it. Nfitz (talk) 03:15, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

I've been around here since 2008, and I assure you that I have come to recognize the difference between those who are here to argue and those who are here to build an encyclopedia. I strongly suspect that you are wrong and you need to fix yourself. TimothyJosephWood 03:29, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

I must have misread your edit history. Did you used to edit with a different account? I'm wrong about what? Fix what? Here to argue? I haven't been arguing (well, outside of the two threads there were I'm involved). I'm not arguing with you - I'm just asking for some explanation, which you flat out refuse to do (perhaps I'm arguing that you need to explain yourself more ... but it's not the argument I want). BTW just popped over to ANI. How come you criticize me, but no one seems to criticize contributions like [1] from others like User:EEng? How is that moving the thread along to a conclusion? I'm even more confused now ... Nfitz (talk) 03:39, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

If you would like help in contributing to the project, then I am more than willing. If you would like help in better contributing to ANI, then I am not, because ANI is not the project; the project is the encyclopedia. TimothyJosephWood 04:15, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

(looks at watch ... Saturday night). You've been drinking, haven't you? I'll come back later ... Nfitz (talk) 04:32, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

PS. I just struck out some of my earlier text, as I was pointed to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive277#Review_of_EEng.27s_indefinite_block which counters my point quite effectively, and makes it clear that irreverent humour is not an issue - and also explains why no one dare criticize EEng - I wish I had the wit and sharp tongue of that editor! Also, despite my promise above not to contribute to new threads, I was over at ANI a few minutes ago looking at the new comments on the JPL case in which I'm involved - and did add a brief comment[2] so as not to waste anyone elses time to check what I checked, to find the whole thing already resolved - hopefully I don't got a lifetime block for this unconstructive, unhelpful, and useless edit ☺. Hmm ... I got the verb tense all wrong - implies I did the edit - sigh, I'll change that. Nfitz (talk) 06:48, 5 March 2017 (UTC)